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DATE: | January 22, 2004 |
TIME: | 2:00 pm |
PLACE: | House Majority Caucus Room |
MEMBERS PRESENT: | Senate: Chairman Williams, Vice Chairman Noble, Senators Noh, Burtenshaw, Schroeder, Gannon, Stennett, Kennedy
House: Chairman Jones, Vice Chairman Trail, Representatives Stevenson, Rydalch, Field, Lake, Bolz, Langford, Shirley, Jaquet, Andersen, Naccarato |
MEMBERS ABSENT/
EXCUSED: |
Senator Goedde |
GUESTS: | Wayne Downey, Agriculture Resource Consulting; Roger Batt, Idaho Mint Growers Association, Idaho-Eastern Oregon Seed Association; Judy Bartlett, Idaho Farm Bureau Federation; Sarah Davis, Idaho Farm Bureau Federation, Intern; Lloyd Knight, Idaho Cattle Association; Hyrum Allen, Idaho Water Users Association; Sam Boyd, Governor’s office; Ross Miller, Governor’s office; Eileen Deshazo, Sierra Club; Clarence Siroky, ISDA (Idaho State Department of Agriculture); Jerry Nicolescu, Soil Conservation Commission; David Ferguson, Soil Conservation Commission; Lee Stacey, ISDA; Mike Cooper, ISDA; Mike Everett, ISDA; Cori Wong, IPTV, intern; Lee Barats, IPTV, intern |
Convened: | Representative Doug Jones, Chairman of the House Agricultural Affairs Committee, called the meeting to order at 2:00 p.m. |
Presentation | Chairman Jones welcomed the Senators and Representatives to the Joint Meeting along with the Idaho State Department of Agriculture. Pat Takasugi, Director, Idaho State Department of Agriculture, was given the floor for introductions of his staff giving the presentations. The Department of Agriculture presented a PowerPoint presentation, and provided a packet of information for each Committee member. A copy of both are on file in the office of the Agricultural Affairs Committee Secretary’s office.
Dr. Clarence Siroky, State Veterinarian, Administrator of Animal Industries Division, ISDA, was given the floor to present information regarding Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE), also known as mad cow disease. Dr. Siroky stated:
Dr. Siroky explained the current situation regarding BSE. One cow was diagnosed with BSE in Washington state. This cow was imported from Canada in a herd of 81 head. USDA has located 19 animals of the 81, and is continuing to trace others. USDA/Washington State’s Task Force has identified “Cattle of Interest” (COI) and the tracing of these cattle is being conducted in several states. The Task Force has identified one of the 81 animals as having moved into an Idaho dairy in the Magic Valley. This COI died in March 2003 from a short illness. The herd associated with this COI has been quarantined. Dr. Siroky commented on the enormous amount of time and legwork it takes when tracing these animals emphasizing the importance of a national animal identification system. The USDA has depopulated and tested 129 animals in Washington state. The USDA has published interim final regulations on slaughter establishments which include a ban on non-ambulatory/disabled animals entering the human food chain. Dr. Siroky has been working on an identification program for ten to twelve years. He referenced a handout entitled “The United States Animal Identification Plan – January 2, 2004” which states, “the identification of premises (production points) is the foundation of the system and must be achieved before animals can be tracked.” (See attached) The National Animal Identification Program will be a mandatory national program, requiring the registration of all premises where food animals are held or kept. It will require individual animal or lot identification with species specific identification requirements. The USDA will maintain national premises information. And the goal is to have 48 hour trace-back capability for disease control purposes. Dr. Siroky stated that species specific groups will have the ability to develop what works well for their industry, with the ability to determine finite rules for themselves. A booklet is being put together of frequently asked questions. Dr. Siroky stated the USDA has accelerated the implementation of the national program, and has asked the states to submit pilot project proposals to implement this program. He is currently working with the Brand Department on a proposal for a pilot project. Mike Cooper, Administrator, Plant Industries Division, ISDA addressed the Animal Feed program. The USDA banned the feeding of ruminant protein to ruminants in 1997. The ISDA reviews all animal feed labels submitted for registration for compliance. In 2001, ISDA began inspecting all feed mills in Idaho under contract with FDA for compliance with the ban. The ISDA makes about 50 inspections a year. ISDA is exploring on-farm feed inspections under an expanded contract with FDA. The FDA has stated blood is exempt from ruminant and can be used. Laura Johnson, Bureau Chief, International Trade and Domestic Market Development, ISDA presented the marketing strategy for both interstate and international. Ms. Johnson stated that U.S. Agriculture is a net exporter with a trade surplus of over $12 billion. She reported that 60% of Idaho peas and lentils and 55% of Idaho wheat are exported. ISDA has trade offices in Mexico, Taiwan, Korea and China. Governor’s Trade Missions have been in Mexico, Canada and Asia. ISDA works in conjunction with Commerce to run the trade offices and trade missions. Marketing agricultural products involves animal health issues, licensing, grading and inspection, and phytosanitary certificates. Ms. Johnson commented on the launch of ISDA’s marketing program “Idaho Preferred.” This campaign began in November and will be more visible this Spring. She showed a 30 second commercial that will be shown locally. Wal-Mart and Paul’s Markets have been featured for marketing Idaho products exclusively. Sherm Takatori, Program Manager of Crop Residue Disposal Program, ISDA updated the Committees on crop residue disposal and agricultural smoke management. Mr. Takatori reiterated that air quality standards were established by Idaho Department of Environmental Quality (DEQ) and the US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). He stated that ISDA manages Ag smoke management within these standards. He stated that Title 22, Chapter 48, Idaho Code, Smoke Management and Crop Residue Disposal maintains a current penalty provision for the northern ten counties only (Tier II). The current status of the statewide smoke management plan has 106,691 acres registered with 81,642 acres burned. Representative Trail reported he had only one smoke complaint this year compared with 25 last year. For the 2003 season in the Grangeville, Rathdrum Prairie, and Boundary County there was new equipment and more personnel as a result complaints were reduced by over 50%. Mr. Takatori informed the Committee that additional weather monitoring equipment will enhance smoke management. He advised the committee of the various types of information accessible by website: www.agri.idaho.gov. John Chatburn, Deputy Administrator Animal Industries Division, ISDA was given the floor to present information regarding Agriculture Odor Management Act. Mr. Chatburn stated the history of the act which became law on July 1, 2001 which required all livestock, dairy and plant investigators, engineers and technical staff to respond to odor complaints and conduct investigations. The toll free complaint line is 1-866-435-0490. ISDA has issued notices of violations to four operations, all four facilities have submitted Odor Management Plans. One facility was penalized for violation of plan. Mr. Chatburn stated that plans are modified to reflect changes/improvements to operation. ISDA received 569 complaints from July 2003-December 2003, of which 96%, or 544, were dairy complaints. Mr. Chatburn stated six dairy facilities have invested $6.5 million to improve odor conditions. They are planning an additional $900,000 to $3.4 million this year to further improve systems. Urbanization will continue to play a significant role in relation to odor. Mr. Chatburn closed his presentation by informing the Committee that ISDA anticipates establishing odor standards through a negotiated rule process this summer. These standards will be scientifically based, enforceable and economically viable. Dave Ferguson, Soil Conservation Commission, gave an update of the SCC. The SCC is a non-regulatory agency that supports landowners through conservation districts in the wise use and enhancement of soil, water, and related resources. The SCC administers administrative support, and provides long range resource planning and accountability. Landowners are provided with technical assistance, Best Management Practice funding, and conservation education. Mr. Ferguson stated that every $1.00 the state spends is matched by money from the industry. He reported that through local conservation districts about $1.1 million/ year of SCC funding goes towards BMP installation, which accounts for about one-third of costs. Over 50 watershed projects across Idaho are treating nearly 400 thousand acres of private land. He stated that SCC is on track with TMDL (Total Maximum Daily Loads) planning and is implementing them as well. Other SCC programs/projects include:
Mike Everett, Deputy Director Administration, Deputy Director Agricultural Resources Division, ISDA had the floor for the final presentation on the Budget by ISDA. Mr. Everett reported that the following presentation was a brief summary, and that a full report would be presented to JFAC (Joint Finance Appropriations Committee) the following morning. The Agency’s request was for $27,280,900 and the Governor’s Recommendation was for $26,715,600. This signifies a 4.50% increase in the Agency’s request and a 2.28% increase from the Governor’s recommendation. ISDA has secured approximately 38 grants for a total of $3.5 million dollars in a five year trend (1999 through 2003) on actual spending. Pat Takasugi, Director, ISDA closed the presentation with a copy of a BSE press release regarding the COI in the Magic Valley. See attached. |
Adjourned: | Chairman Jones adjourned the meeting at 3:40 p.m. |
DATE: | March 17, 2004 |
TIME: | 6:00 p.m. |
PLACE: | Room 437 |
MEMBERS PRESENT: | Chairman Williams, Vice Chairman Noble, Senators Noh, Burtenshaw, Schroeder, Goedde, Gannon, Stennett, Kennedy |
GUESTS: | See the attached sign-in sheet. |
MINUTES: | Senator Burtenshaw made the motion to approve the Minutes of March 9, 2004. The motion was seconded. The motion was carried by a voice vote.
Senator Gannon made the motion to approve the Minutes of March 11, 2004. The motion was seconded. The motion was carried by a voice vote. |
H 836 | Representative Doug Jones presented H 836 relating to Aquaculture; to establish the Idaho Aquaculture Commission. It is estimated the commission will generate from $10,000 to $20,000 annually from producer assessments. Representative Jones stated there was a disagreement over the way the original bill was drafted. Representative Jones worked with Senator Noh, and Representative Stevenson in drafting the bill that is now before the Committee. Representative Jones stated a water crisis is occurring in the Magic Valley, creating the immediate need for this Aquaculture Commission. Representative Jones went through the legislation reporting on two unique things to the bill. Page 2, line 18, reads that no company can have more than one member on the Commission. Page 5, line 9, reads a producer may opt out of the program completely, a letter stating this wish is to be submitted annually. |
Discussion | Senator Noh stated the disagreement was between two major aquaculture producers, the changes made to the legislation were worked out and this is an example of the constructive attributes of the producers. There has been a great degree of give and take on the issue.
Senator Stennett asked Representative Jones if the $.05 per hundred weight is paid by the processor or the producer. Representative Jones stated the assessment is paid by the producer, the processor is the collector. Senator Gannon asked about any assessment on by-products of trout. Representative Jones stated the assessment applies to the live weight. Senator Schroeder asked if the assessment applies to alligators. Representative Jones stated it does, as well as the little aquarium fish. |
Testimony | Dick Rush, IACI, testified in support of H 836. He stated they were the alligator that caused the concern over the original bill over the split industry forming a Commission. The processor he represents is now in support of the bill. He stated the hopes that research generated from the Aquaculture Commission could help the Idaho water issue. |
MOTION | Senator Noble made the motion to report out H 836 with a DO PASS recommendation. It was seconded by Senator Schroeder. The motion carried by a voice vote. Senator Stennett will sponsor the bill. Senator Noh will cosponsor the bill. |
H 816aa | Speaker of the House Bruce Newcomb presented H 816aa relating to the Inspection and Suppression of Diseases in Animals; to prohibit the importation of cattle originating in Canada into the state of Idaho unless they are consigned directly to slaughter facility or bear the brand “C” on the neck, and are identified with a radio frequency identification device; to strike obsolete language and provide correct terminology and to make technical corrections. Speaker Newcomb stated this legislation is a written response to Mad Cow Disease, BSE. He went through the legislation commenting on the need for the State of Idaho to trace its animals. He reported on the business he lost during the BSE scare in late December, early January of this year. He commented on the amount of Idaho beef business being lost since foreign countries have closed their imports of United States beef. Speaker Newcomb stated he worked with Senator Stennett on this legislation. It is his desire to have legislation in place to begin the process of identification of Idaho animals even before USDA comes out with a national program or plan. It is necessary to address the issue now. |
Discussion | Senator Gannon asked if Japan would have cut off their imports of US beef even if Idaho had this i.d. program. Speaker Newcomb stated this was correct.
Senator Gannon asked who would pay for the devices used to read the radio frequencies. Speaker Newcomb stated he suspected the fees he pays as a producer would be used to pay for the devices. Senator Gannon stated his concern if all the states develop their own identification program. Senator Schroeder asked about the importance of tracking Idaho’s animals, and intrastate commerce. Speaker Newcomb stated the State of Idaho has a right to determine how it will identify animals. Senator Schroeder asked if Canada will retaliate. Speaker Newcomb stated they shouldn’t because everyone would benefit from the identification of animals. Senator Schroeder asked if the cost of the identification program was known. Speaker Newcomb stated the cost was $1.80 to $2.50, he anticipated over time the technology would improve and the costs would decrease. |
MOTION | Senator Stennett made the motion to report out H 816aa with a DO PASS recommendation. It was seconded by Senator Noh. The motion carried by a voice vote. Senator Stennett will sponsor the bill. |
H 806 | Dr. Clarence Siroky, State Veterinarian, Division of Animal Industries, ISDA presented H 806 relating to Animal Disease Control; to authorize the Division of Animal Industries to promulgate rules for the identification of livestock, poultry, or fish and for registration of premises where livestock, poultry or fish are held; and to provide that certain data and information collected by the Division of Animal Industries or the State Brand Board shall not be considered a public record and shall be exempt from public disclosure. Dr. Siroky reported on the United States Animal Identification Program, USAIP. He stated the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) steering committee is moving forward and is currently taking comments from various groups on the issue. Congress does not feel the USDA is moving fast enough. The issues causing disagreement are the development of rules for animal identification and the confidentiality of information. Dr. Siroky stated Idaho US Senator Larry Craig is working with the Nebraska US Senator on Senate bill 2070 (United States Animal Identification Plan Implementation Act), to amend the Animal Health Protection Act to direct the Secretary of Agriculture to implement the United States Animal Identification Plan, confidentiality of information, authorization of appropriations, ruminant feed ban, and an enforcement plan. Dr. Siroky stated the intent is for species specific groups to develop systems which groups can use to i.d. their animal. He commented on the need to work closely with the Brand Department as their inspectors are among the first in line to record the information. He stated information regarding the USAIP could be found at www.usaip.info.
Dr. Siroky presented information to the Committee relating to a pilot project. Idaho has the opportunity to take part in this pilot project to demonstrate the usability of USAIP. The program would focus on the process to utilize rules. This legislation would put Idaho at a greater advantage to get federal funding for the program. Dr. Siroky stated the lack of implementing this legislation puts the animal industry at risk in the State of Idaho. He commented on the importance of the confidentiality in order to protect the producers. Producers have not had the experience in dealing with governmental registration and they are bound to be uncomfortable with governmental agencies looking through their business. |
Discussion | Senator Schroeder asked if a family that buys three or four chickens will need to i.d. them. Dr. Siroky stated it is possible. Species groups would be responsible for putting together their own standards.
Senator Kennedy asked if the intent of the legislation is for disease control then why is the information designed to establish that purpose shielded from the public. Dr. Siroky stated the information could be used to identify vulnerable spots. He gave an example of Foot/Mouth disease placed in a strategic location where several groups of animals are gathered. He asked for the Committee to understand that information outside of biosecurity has no bearing to the general public. Senator Noh stated his concern is over protecting the public and then closing the public from access to it. The legislation states “all” data. It doesn’t limit it. It relates to the whole act. Dr. Siroky stated the fact is the rules are being put together under the USAIP. Senator Noh stated the rub between government and the public is the tendency to keep more things secret. The law is the only constraint the government has. Dr. Siroky stated the industry has two issues: biosecurity, and if confidentiality of information is let out it could break the deal. |
Testimony | Judy Bartlett, Idaho Farm Bureau, testified in support of H 806. She stated the IFB went to the ISDA for help on this bill. The spread of a disease like Foot/Mouth, and how quickly it could spread in 48 hours, is more threatening than Mad Cow disease. She stated the deal breaker for the IFB is the confidentiality. If harmful people can gain access to information, it needs to be more secure. This legislation is about the tracing of animals and knowing where they are. If the bill is not passed then the State would lose the ability to participate in the pilot project. IFB wants to ensure the program is designed to fit the Idaho producers. |
Discussion | Senator Burtenshaw asked about the purpose of registration. Dr. Siroky stated it allows a system to be implemented by the producer.
Senator Burtenshaw asked for clarification on how the i.d. works once the animal is sold. Dr. Siroky stated the original i.d. stays with the animal. The record maintained by ownership is the brand. The animal may be re-branded with the new owner, however, the same i.d. tag stays with the animal through its life. Dr. Siroky stated the producer is not responsible for tracing back the animals, that responsibility falls to the tracing system. |
Testimony | Lloyd Knight, Idaho Cattle Association, testified in support of H 806. He stated this rule making authority is very important in order to have an Idaho specific program if and when the national i.d. program is put together. There are issues specific to Idaho that aren’t considered by other States: brand laws, public lands grazing, animal health regulations, and trade among neighboring States that have similar issues. The ability to write rules at the State level is important to ICA members.
The public records on hand will deal with sensitive information, not just the information of premises. There is information on movement, and the number of animals at a certain time of year, and this information is sensitive. He stated this is a system for live animal trace back in the event of an emergency. The information is specific to emergency use. He stated the importance of pilot projects in this part of the country. He asked the Committee to pass H 806. |
Testimony | DuWayne Scaar, Chairman, Idaho State Brand Board, testified in support of H 806. He stated he attended a Western Livestock Identification Associations conference in Reno, Nevada. He met with a Canadian delegation, and they currently have this program. It is working well for the industry in Canada now. He stated the business lost in beef exports could be gained by the implementation of an i.d. program. This is one way that Canada is ahead of the United States and it could cause us to be behind in the export business. |
Discussion | Senator Noble asked how much paperwork is involved. Mr. Scaar stated there will be more records however, but the current system is good. The industry knows they have to do this. He stated he was in favor of putting this program together in Idaho.
Senator Stennett asked how shielding the information from consumers serves to promote confidence. Mr. Scaar stated there are lots of reasons to shield the information. There are many environmental terrorists and if they have access to the information it would be detrimental. |
Testimony | John Chatburn, Deputy Administrator, Division of Animal Industries, ISDA, commented the State of Wisconsin just passed their animal identification bill, which included an exemption from the Wisconsin Public Records act. This Public Records exemption deals only with the premises and animal i.d. information gathered only for animal disease control purposes. It doesn’t apply to the whole chapter. |
Discussion | Senator Schroeder commented the U.S. Fish and Wildlife once wanted to provide that all muskrat hides be tagged, the record-keeping was more than the hides were worth. He stated the costs would go up. Bureaucrats like to keep records on everything. “If we have to identify every chicken raised and bought and sold in the country, the price of chicken will be phenomenal.” He stated he doesn’t see the reason. |
MOTION | Senator Burtenshaw made the motion to report out H 806 with a DO PASS recommendation. It was seconded by Senator Noble.
Senator Schroeder made a substitute motion to send H 806 to the 14th ORDER. The motion died for lack of a second. Senator Kennedy commented the program is needed in the State of Idaho and the sooner the better but to use the threat of bio terrorism as a reason to exempt the information gathered from public disclosure is a red herring. He stated, “if we let 9 -11 turn our country, and government into a secret society than we’re not doing a very good job at being in government.” The Chairman called for a roll call vote on the original motion. Ayes – Senators Noh, Goedde, Gannon, Burtenshaw, Noble, Williams Nay – Senators Schroeder, Stennett, Kennedy The motion carried by six ayes to three nays. Senator Burtenshaw will sponsor the bill. |
Adjournment: | Chairman Williams adjourned the meeting at 7:12 p.m. |