Health/child care, welfare
January 14, 2004
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March 20, 2004
DATE: | January 14, 2004 |
TIME: | 1:30 pm |
PLACE: | Room 404 |
MEMBERS: | Chairman Sali, Vice Chairman Block, Representatives Eberle, Garrett, Kulczyk, McGeachin, Nielsen, Ring, Henbest, Martinez, Mitchell |
ABSENT/
EXCUSED: |
None |
GUESTS: | See attached sign-in sheet |
Chairman Sali called the first meeting of the Health and Welfare Committee to order at 2:40 P.M. He addressed the committee on administration of issues from the 2003 session. A few members had approached the Speaker last year regarding issues before the committee. Chairman Sali asked that all members seek to resolve committee business within the committee first. He asked that they contact him first to try to resolve any issues. If he is unavailable or if a member would feel more comfortable, Vice Chairman Block will field any questions as well. If there is ever a problem that requires involving the Speaker, the Chairman requests that he be allowed the courtesy of being present for such discussion. The Speaker has agreed that he will ask members to see the Chairman first to try to bring resolve within the committee before he entertains comments from members. The Chairman urged the committee that each member is responsible to act quickly to resolve any issues so that the business of the committee can be handled effectively and expediently. Chairman Sali then invited committee discussion. Regarding length of meetings, the Chairman remarked that last year, time Some of the members commented on the length of time allowed for
Representative Henbest brought before the committee the consideration The Chairman urged the members to take the responsibility to be The Chairman opened for discussion and welcomed questions from the The Chairman addressed the committee regarding the challenge before Chairman Sali referred to a conference that had been sponsored by the He pointed out that each member has been elected to lead in this area Representative Garrett commented that she is serving on the Healthcare The Chairman will be dividing the Rules into two groups. Rules that There being no further business brought before the committee, Chairman |
DATE: | January 20, 2004 |
TIME: | 1:30 P.M. |
PLACE: | Room 404 |
MEMBERS: | Chairman Sali, Vice Chairman Block, Representatives Eberle, Garrett, Kulczyk, McGeachin, Nielsen, Ring, Henbest, Martinez, Mitchell |
ABSENT/
EXCUSED: |
None were absent |
GUESTS: | Please see attached sign-in sheet. |
Chairman Sali called the meeting to order at 1:35 P.M.
Dr. Erik Olsen, a member of AARP Board of Directors, gave a brief |
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MOTION: | Rep. Kulczyk made a motion to approve the minutes of the January 14, 2004 meeting as submitted. On a voice vote, the motion carried. |
Chariman Sali informed the Committee that they had each been given a copy of the Catastrophic Health Care Cost Program report prepared by Blake Hall, contract administrator for the Catastrophic Health Care Cost Program. He encouraged the members to look through the report as it presents some very interesting health trends. |
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Docket 16-0309-0215 |
Leslie Clement, bureau chief of Medicaid policy, presented this docket to the Committee. This amended docket includes amendments to the Medicaid Case Management changes resulting from last year’s budget holdback. The Department met with legislators and provider representatives in order to address crisis coverage. As a result of these meetings, this docket was amended to allow up to four hours per month of crisis case management without department authorization, retain the four hours of ongoing crisis management, and include another four hours for crises if more restrictive criteria have been met. A key outcome of this work was the development of criteria that reflects a “crisis” and clarification of crisis case management services. Crisis case management means “linking, coordinating, and advocacy” and By Unanimous Consent, the Committee’s report will reflect there was no |
Docket 16-0309-0306 |
Leslie Clement continued her presentation with this docket. This docket restores some mental health case management hours as a result of additional funding. This rule change reflects benefits added for mental health case management as a result of a special Medicaid budget appropriation for State Fiscal year 2004. With this year’s appropriation, Medicaid has been able to restore some of the on-going case management services that had been reduced. With the allocation of about $148,000, the Department increased on-going By Unanimous Consent, the Committee’s report will reflect there was no |
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David Rogers, administrator, Division of Medicaid, presented the remaining dockets to the Committee. He explained that the next five dockets all related to the implementation of the Department’s Adult Developmental Disabilities (DD) Care Management program including Prior Authorization of Behavioral Health Services. Mr. Rogers asked for the permission to give the Committee a brief He explained that the purpose of these rules is to promote a sustainable, Managing care improves the quality of care, controls growth in costs and The primary elements of these rules include: the use of an Independent Chairman Sali clarified to the Committee that the Behavioral Health Care |
Docket 16-0313-0301 |
Mr. Rogers continued with his presentation by addressing Docket 16-0313-0301. This new chapter outlines the process for prior authorization of Developmental Disability (DD) services for eligible adults. The rules require an independent assessment of adults seeking DD services. Based on all assessment information for the client, as well as the past three years of Medicaid expenditures (when available), an appropriate, individualized participant budget is negotiated for the participant that will support the participant’s identified needs. Based on the individualized budget, and building on the person-centered planning process, all needed services and supports are identified. The participant may develop their own plan, or they may choose a paid or non-paid person to serve as the plan developer. A direct service provider cannot be a paid plan developer. If requested services fall outside the individualized participant budget, it The new chapter also outlines quality assurance and quality improvement During discussion of this rule, Chairman Sali put the Committee at ease. Chairman Sali called the meeting to order at 2:50 P.M. Representative McGeachin distributed a copy of a Consumer Budget Distribution report Committee discussion continued with the following points covered: In response to questions from members, Mr Rogers commented that the |
Docket 16-0309-0307 |
Mr. Rogers continued with his presentation. He explained that these rule changes support the implementation of the adult Developmental Disability (DD) care management program. These changes also clarify that the participant’s may choose to receive or not to receive Target Service Coordination. A participant may elect to select a non-paid plan developer or plan monitor. Committee discussion and questions followed. One of the main concerns Jim Baugh, executive director of CO-AD (Comprehensive Advocacy, After further discussion the Committee agreed with Chairman Sali’s Bill Benkula, president of the Idaho Association of Developmental Mr. Benkula remarked that the Care Management program shifts the Kelly Hall, an owner and plan developer with Dunstan Hall & Associates, Committee discussion followed with reservations regarding accepting Chairman Sali asked if it would be the pleasure of the Committee to Chairman Sali asked if it would be the pleasure of the Committee to |
Docket 16-0323-0301 |
Mr. Rogers explained that this rule provides that the Uniform Assessment Instrument (UAI) is not used for prior authorization of behavioral health services. This rule change specifies that the assessment used under the Developmental Disability (DD) program meets the requirement for a uniform assessment necessary as condition of state payment of supported living services. By Unanimous Consent, the Committees’s report will reflect there was no |
Docket 16-0411-0301 |
Mr. Rogers explained that this rule aligns language with the existing rules for Developmental Disabilities Agencies (DDA’s) with the new chapter. By Unanimous Consent, the Committee’s report will reflect there was no |
Docket 16-0417-0301 |
Mr. Rogers explained that this rule aligns the language with existing rules for Residential Habilitation Agencies with the new chapter. By Unanimous Consent, the Committee’s report will reflect there was no |
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As there was no further business to be brought before the Committee, Chairman Sali adjourned the meeting at 4:45 P.M. |
DATE: | January 22, 2004 |
TIME: | 1:00 P.M. |
PLACE: | Room 404 |
MEMBERS: | Chairman Sali, Vice Chairman Block, Representatives Eberle, Garrett, Kulczyk, McGeachin, Nielsen, Ring, Henbest, Martinez, Mitchell |
ABSENT/
EXCUSED: |
None |
GUESTS: | Please see attached sign-in sheet. |
Chairman Sali called the meeting to order at 1:05 P.M.
The Chairman presented to the Committee the official letter from the The Chairman explained to the Committee that on the Internet, a list of all The Chairman asked that those who wish to testify please be considerate |
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Docket 16-0309-0311 | Leslie Clement, bureau chief of Medicaid policy, presented this temporary rule docket to the Committee. The purpose of these rule changes was twofold: a) There was a need to reflect changes in The first part of the docket identifies changes to the Pycho-Social PSR Provider Agency personnel coming into direct contact with The changes to the mental health clinic rules and related partial care rules This rule does not introduce any new federal or state requirements for Ms. Clement further explained that there were a number of concerns She concluded the presentation by stating that the Department is The Department requests that the Committee extend these temporary Kelly Keele, social worker with the Mental Health Providers Association April Crandall, president of Mental Health (MH) Provider’s Association of Steve Myers M.D., a pediatrician in Idaho Falls spoke passionately to the He further explained that policy and procedures should not be created He recommends the following; develop a state oversight system to review Tammie Bradley, a social worker from Blackfoot, Idaho, addressed the Matthew Smith, program director Mental Health Clinic in Idaho Falls Ms. Clement was asked to yield to the Committee’s question regarding Committee discussion continued regarding options of acting on this rule. |
MOTION: | Representative McGeachin made a Motion that the Committee delay action on this Docket 16-0309-0311 subject to the pleasure of the Chair to a time after the February 5, 2004 meeting. There was discussion on the motion. |
SUBSTITUTE MOTION: |
Representative Mitchell made a Substitute Motion that the Committee vote to accept Docket 16-0309-0311. There was discussion on the Motion. |
AMENDED SUBSTITUTE MOTION: |
Representative Kulczyk made an Amended Substitute Motion that the Committee’s report to the Speaker will reflect that no reason was found to reject Docket 16-0309-0311. There was discussion on the Motion. Michelle McMullen from the Office of Administrative Rules yielded to Discussion continued on the Motions before them. |
ROLL CALL VOTE: |
On a roll call vote, the AMENDED SUBSTITUTE MOTION failed. Representatives Kulczyk, Henbest, Martinez, Mitchell voted AYE. Representatives Block, Garrett, Eberle, Ring, McGeachin, Nielsen voted NAY. After discussion, Representative Mitchell withdrew his SUBSTITUTE |
ROLL CALL VOTE: |
On a roll call vote the Original MOTION by Representative McGeachin for the Committee to delay action on this Docket 16-0309-0311 subject to the pleasure of the Chair to a time after the meeting February 5, 2004. The Motion passed by a unanimous vote. |
Docket 16-0309-0303 | Shawna Kittridge, pharmacy services supervisor for the Division of Medicaid, presented this pending rule to the Committee. She explained that the goal of the Medicaid Pharmacy program is to provide quality care to Medicaid participants with the most effective drug at the right price. This rule change promotes the health and safety of Medicaid participants by assuring that objective research plays a primary role in our prescription drug program. This rule supports evidence-based information which allows the Department to make prior authorization and other program related decisions based on good science. Idaho Medicaid has joined with other states and countries to obtain current evidence-based drug class reviews from the Center of Evidence-based Policy at OHSU. The Therapeutics Committee and the Medicaid Pharmacy work together. Additionally, in an effort to obtain the right price for medications paid for John Santa, M.D., Assistant professor, Oregon Health and Sciences This project is a collaboration of private and public purchasers, like Idaho, The Center for Evidence-based Policy (described in the attached Dr. Santa provided a more detailed paper summarizing the key elements Ted Epperle, M.D., physician and physicians’ trainer, addressed the Jim Alexander, pharmacist, spoke in support of this rule. He explained Bill Roden, representing PHRMA –the trade association for research He explained that since last year, the Department has made significant Mr. Roden summarized the problems as follows: a) there is no statutory b) cost effectiveness of such a program may not be great, because the c) the rule authorizes the Department to utilize the services of a third party Rick Sutton, pharmacist for Shopko, Boise, addressed the Committee in Clyde Dailey, State director for AARP of Idaho spoke on behalf of AARP. Representative Garrett addressed the Committee with her remarks Rep. Garrett distributed a copy of letter dated January 8, 2004, Committee discussion followed. Chairman Sali suggested the Committee could vote to approve Docket By Unanimous Consent, the Committee’s report will reflect there was no |
Docket 16-0501-0301 |
Gary Payne, Department of Health and Welfare, addressed the Committee. He gave an overview of the remaining two dockets: Docket 16-0501-0301 and Docket 16-0501-0302. He said that these rules replace a lengthy, confusing and outdated set of confidentiality rules. With the advent of the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability ACT, HIPPA, they took the opportunity to simplify and shorten the Department’s rules. He explained the following concepts related to the rules: 1) confidential information can be used within the Department across programs on a need-to-know and minimally necessary basis. 2) if information is requested to be provided to someone outside the Department, an authorization is required from the individual who is the subject of the record; 3) the rules clearly define the rights of the individual to access his own records, restrict their disclosure, and the limited circumstances when the individual may not have access to them. By Unanimous Consent, the Committee’s report will reflect there was no |
Docket 16-0501-0302 | Gary Payne included testimony for this docket within the scope of the previous Docket 16-0501-0301. By Unanimous Consent, the Committee’s report will reflect there was no |
ADJOURN: | As there was no further business to be brought before the Committee, Chairman Sali adjourned the meeting at 5:15 P.M. |
DATE: | January 26, 2004 |
TIME: | 1:30 P.M. |
PLACE: | Room 404 |
MEMBERS: | Chairman Sali, Vice Chairman Block, Representatives Eberle, Garrett, Kulczyk, McGeachin, Nielsen, Ring, Henbest, Martinez, Mitchell |
ABSENT/
EXCUSED: |
Rep. Nielsen |
GUESTS: | See attached list |
Chairman Sali called the meeting to order at 1:35 P.M.
There was discussion on the minutes. The Chairman put the Committee Chairman Sali announced that due to computer difficulties, the prepared |
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RS 13452 | Rayola Jacobsen, Bureau Chief of the Occupational License Bureau presented this RS to the Committee. This bill adds language that will make a violation of the rules of the Board of Psychologist Examiners grounds for a disciplinary action against a licensee. |
MOTION: | Rep. Ring moved to send RS 13452 to Print. On a voice vote the motion carried. |
RS 13483 | Rayola Jacobsen presented this RS to the Committee. She explained that the intent of this RS is to correct terminology, provide references to pastoral counselors, and allow the Idaho State Licensing Board to adopt rules requiring annual continuing education as a condition for renewal of licenses; amend Idaho Code to delete certain continuing education requirements for pastoral counselors; to delete language referring to the meaning of “licensed pastoral counselor” and “licensed professional counselor” make a grammatical change; and amend Idaho Code to revise terminology and delete certain continuing education requirements for marriage and family therapists. There were a number of questions from the members. |
MOTION: | Rep. Martinez made a motion to send RS 13483 to Print. On a voice vote the motion carried. |
RS 13467 | Rayola Jacobsen presented this RS to the Committee. This bill increases the number of members of the Board of Social Work Examiners by one lay member and revises the nomination process. Roger Hales, attorney for the Bureau of Occupational Licenses, stated |
MOTION: | Rep. Ring made a motion to send RS 13467 to Print. On a voice vote the motion carried. |
RS 13468C1 | Rayola Jacobsen presented the RS to the Committee. This bill clarifies that the application fee includes the original license fee. It is not a new fee. Questions from the Committee followed with concern that the language is still not clear as to the real intent of the bill. Chairman Sali asked for unanimous consent to return RS 13468C1 to |
Docket 27-0101-0205 | Richard Markuson, Executive Director of the Idaho Board of Pharmacy presented this pending rule. He explained that this rule recognizes revised controlled substance prescription forms authorized by House Bill No. 331 in the 2001 legislative session, as well as Senate Bill No. 1417 in the 2002 legislative session. The proposed rule changes outline the requirements for controlled substance prescription blank forms, as well as discipline to be assessed by the Board of Pharmacy in the event practitioners fail to follow the requirements of statute and rule with respect to controlled substance prescription blanks. Mr. Markuson responded to a question from the Committee regarding By unanimous consent, the Committee’s report will reflect there was no |
Docket 27-0101-0302 | Richard Markuson presented this pending fee rule. Mr. Markuson explained that the FDA is in the process of working on legislation that will ban all use of ephedrine products in the next three to four months. However, he believes passage of this rule is necessary as a safeguard in the interim. He explained that this rule treats “preparations containing ephedrine or salts of ephedrine” as prescription drugs. The proposed rule sets out specific criteria for ephedrine products that can be sold without prescription. These criteria include maximum dosage requirements and label disclosure and warnings. An immediate danger is inherent in ephedrine products if they are sold in dosage amounts in excess of the rule or containing synthetic rather than naturally occurring ephedrine alkaloids. The fee charged under this rule is necessary to fund testing of these products to ensure compliance with the requirements of the rule. By unanimous consent, the Committee’s report will reflect there was no |
Docket 27-0101-0303 | Richard Markuson presented this pending rule. He explained that this rule allows the return and use of unopened and unused drugs and makes a technical correction. This change responds to House Concurrent Resolution No. 17 directing the Board of Pharmacy and the Department to develop necessary statutory and rule changes to allow the return and use of unopened and unused drugs. He further explained that the integrity of the product is left up to the pharmacy. The product travels from the pharmacy to the facility and the unchanged product (unopened, in its original packaging) is returned back to the pharmacy. Michelle Glascow, Director of the Idaho Assisted Living Association, By unanimous consent, the Committee’s report will reflect there was no |
Docket 27-0101-0304 | Richard Markuson presented this rule to the Committee. Mr. Markuson explained that this rule change expands the list of acceptable pharmacy references which are part of the required library in each pharmacy. This change is necessary to implement an expanded list of acceptable pharmacy references and electronic data sources now recognized by the Board of Pharmacy. This is a ‘housekeeping’ bill. By unanimous consent, the Committee’s report will reflect there was no |
Docket 16-0309-0309 | Paul Leary, Program Manager for Medicaid Policy addressed the Committee. He explained that the purpose of this rule is to support the Department’s commitment to providing both the right price for services and the right services for participants. Additionally, the Department wants the rules that govern their services to be clear to all stakeholders. This docket includes two different Sections of the Medical Assistance rules, Section 121 and Section 146. Within the first section, Idaho Medicaid has used the same The second section of the rule deals with Personal Care Services. By unanimous consent, the Committee’s report will reflect there was no |
Docket 16-0612-0301 | Terri Meyer, Deputy Administer of the Division of Welfare addressed the Committee. She explained that access to affordable child care is a critically needed support for families transitioning to and maintaining employment. The Child Care program provides assistance for about 10,000 children of low income working families. This change allows us to meet last year’s budgetary reduction, without reducing the coverage group. It results in a 6% per child increase in the family’s co-payment, or an average of $23 per child per month. Geni Weppner, Program Manager for the Division of Welfare yielded to By unanimous consent, the Committee’s report will reflect there was no |
Docket 16-0311-0101 | Debby Ransom, Bureau Chief of Facility Standards, presented this temporary rule. She explained that this rule sets a cap on beds in community intermediate care facilities for persons with mental retardation at 486 beds. Of that 486, with 12 beds reserved for time-limited emergency use. She stated that the Department is before the Committee requesting extension of the ICF/MR bed cap for another year. She further explained that the Department consulted with the Idaho By unanimous consent, the Committee’s report will reflect there was |
ADJOURN: | As there was no further business to be brought before the Committee, Chairman Sali adjourned the meeting at 3:40 P.M. |
DATE: | January 26, 2004 |
TIME: | 8:30 a.m. |
PLACE: | Room 406 |
MEMBERS: | Chairman Garrett, Representatives Kulczyk, Block, and Martinez |
GUESTS: | See attached list |
The Chairman called the meeting to order at 8:37 a.m. with a quorum present.
15-0230-0301 | Business Enterprise Program – Retirement |
Ms. Lisa Van Ry spoke to the Committee regarding this rule. A copy of her testimony is
attached. She noted that the provisions of the previous rule was unenforceable. This rule will
rectify that problem. In addition, this rule allows vendors for the Business Enterprise Program
the option of choosing their own investment broker.
MOTION: Rep. KULCZYK moved that the Sub-Committee inform the full Committee
that they have found no reason to reject this rule. Motion carried by voice
vote.
15-0230-0302 | Business Enterprise Program – Allowable cost manual |
Ms. Lisa Van Ry spoke to the Committee regarding this rule. A copy of her testimony is
attached. She said that it provides clearer guidelines which will be fairer to all concerned.
MOTION: Rep. MARTINEZ moved that the Sub-Committee inform the full Committee
that they have found no reason to reject this rule. Motion carried by voice
vote.
16-0203-0401 | Emergency Medical Services – Added new EMT-I designation |
Ms. Dia Gainor, Emergency Medical Services Bureau Chief, Division of Health, spoke to the
Committee about this rule. A copy of her testimony is attached. She said that two separate
entities had been given the opportunity to comment on this rule: a state advisory Committee
which was already wrestling with the issues included in this rule, and an EMT task force.
Mr. Dick Schultz also spoke to the Committee regarding this rule. He said that it arose because
of a dispute between a city and a county in the state regarding an EMS application. One entity
approved, the other did not. The state really had no say in the matter. This rule allows the local
authority the ultimate decision-making ability.
MOTION: Rep. KULCZYK moved that the Sub-Committee inform the full Committee
that they have found no reason to reject this rule. Motion carried by voice
vote.
16-0210-0401 | Idaho Reportable Diseases – SARS and West Nile Virus added to list |
Dr. Chris Carter, speaking on behalf of Dr. Christine Hahn, spoke to the Committee regarding
this rule. She said that it includes the SARS and West Nile viruses in the list of diseases which
are to be reported and it lists measures to be taken if and when those diseases are found to be
present. It enhances prevention and control of the spread of these diseases in Idaho.
MOTION: Rep. KULCZYK moved that the Sub-Committee inform the full Committee
that they have found no reason to reject this rule. Motion carried by voice
vote.
16-0214-0301 | Public Swimming Pools – Permit fees & authority code -Repeals chapter and moves swimming pool rules into 16.05.05 |
16-0505-0301 | Fees for Operation Permits, Licenses & Inspection Services – repeal of chapter |
Ms. Elke Shaw-Tulloch, Bureau Chief of the Department of Health and Welfare, spoke to the
Committee regarding these rules. She explained there is no new language; it is simply a
housekeeping measure. There is no new policy proposed; language is simply moved from one
section to another for the sake of clarity. Any fees included in this rule are the same as before.
MOTION: Rep. MARTINEZ moved that the Sub-Committee inform the full Committee
that they have found no reason to reject 16-0214-0301. Motion carried by
voice vote.
MOTION: Rep. KULCZYK moved that the Sub-Committee inform the full Committee
that they have found no reason to reject 16-0505-0301. Motion carried by
voice vote.
16-0301-0201 | Medicaid Eligibility/Provision to count TAFI income consistently when determining Medicaid eligibility |
Ms. Terri Meyer, deputy Administrator, Department of Health and Welfare, spoke to the
Committee regarding this rule. She said that small increases in previous allowances had
caused some families to lose their eligibility for Medicaid. This rule remedies that situation.
Many families are so close to the cutoff amounts that even these very small increases cause
great hardship. There are some technical clarifications to ease understanding and
communication.
In answer to a question from the Committee regarding “disqualified parents”, she noted that in
certain cases where a parent refuses to cooperate with the Department, they can be disqualified
for Medicaid eligibility. The parent is disqualified, but not the child.
She reiterated that there are no new standards being imposed. There is new language which
clarifies the Department’s position. There is no change in policy.
Ms. Joyce McRoberts, Deputy Director of the Department of Health and Welfare, said that the
Department had begun a serious attempt to phrase the rules in plain language to make it easier
to use by administrators and clients.
Ms. Beverly Barr, an employee with the Department, said that the overall guideline for the
Department was to make the language clear and understandable. In many cases, employees
had been following certain procedures to improve efficiency and clarity, and this rule simply
employs those existing standards.
MOTION: Rep. KULCZYK moved that the Sub-Committee inform the full Committee
that they have found no reason to reject this rule. Motion carried by voice
vote.
16-0301-0301 | Medicaid Eligibility/Aligns citizenship requirements with federal regulations |
Ms. Terri Meyer, deputy Administrator, Department of Health and Welfare, spoke to the
Committee regarding this rule. She said that previous federal legislation had severely restricted
access to Medicaid by legal immigrants. Another set of federal legislation removed these
restrictions. This rule simply implements these last requirements into practice. She noted that
legal immigrants must qualify for Medicaid eligibility according to existing requirements. She
noted that there are a very small number of people who will be affected by this rule change.
MOTION: Rep. KULCZYK moved that the Sub-Committee inform the full Committee
that they have found no reason to reject this rule. Motion carried by voice
vote.
16-0301-0302 | Medicaid Eligibility/Aligns SSN with federal regulations; clarifies countable income for eligibility |
Ms. Terri Meyer, deputy Administrator, Department of Health and Welfare, spoke to the
Committee regarding this rule. She explained that part of the rule was written so that certain
information could be transferred electronically, and thereby produce a cost savings by the
Department. However, she noted that part of the rule adversely impacts over 200 children in
the CHIPS program, and she recommended that the Committee reject this portion of the rule
(sections 346-349).
She noted that annual reviews of client cases save the Department time and money. However,
the Department feels that a 6-month review is adequate to accurately determine eligibility of all
its participants in the Medicaid program. She believes that a six-month review period will
address the seasonal workers better. She noted that these reviews are done locally, rather
than at the state level. She also believes that tracking by social security numbers will help
ensure accuracy.
Greg Kunz, acting division administrator of the Department of Health and Welfare, said that the
Department has a good system of verifying eligibility. The Department is doing its very best to
streamline the entire process, including the language in the rule. He noted that using
technology to help this process will cut down on time and will produce savings.
MOTION: Rep. BLOCK moved that the Sub-Committee inform the full Committee
that they have found no reason to reject section 214 of this rule, but they
urge that sections 346-349 of this rule be rejected. Motion carried by voice
vote.
16-0303-0301 | Child Support Services |
Ms. Terri Meyer, deputy Administrator, Department of Health and Welfare, spoke to the
Committee regarding this rule. She said that this rule will help children obtain coverage under a
parent’s insurance as a part of child support.
MOTION: Rep. MARTINEZ moved that the Sub-Committee inform the full
Committee that they have found no reason to reject this rule. Motion
carried by voice vote.
16-0304-0202 | Food Stamps-Aligns rules with federal regulations & with provisions in Title IV of the federal Farm Bill |
Ms. Terri Meyer, deputy Administrator, Department of Health and Welfare, spoke to the
Committee regarding this rule. She noted that it deals with recipients of food stamps, most of
whom are the elderly or are children. She noted that the number of people seeking food stamp
assistance in the state had exploded in recent years as a result of changes in the economy.
This rule was written to follow federal guidelines. She noted that it particularly dealt with
changes to benefits for the disabled and for large families.
Mr. John Wheeler, acting food stamp manager, spoke in support of the rule.
A member of the Committee noted that the huge increase in people seeking assistance should
be a sobering reminder that Idaho’s citizens have been severely hurt by the latest downturn in
the economy.
MOTION: Rep. KULCZYK moved that the Sub-Committee inform the full Committee
that they have found no reason to reject this rule. Motion carried by voice
vote.
16-0304-0301 | Food Stamps-Aligns rules with federal regulations with provisions in Title IV of the federal Farm Bill |
Ms. Terri Meyer, deputy Administrator, Department of Health and Welfare, spoke to the
Committee regarding this rule. She noted that it deals with online verification of eligibility by use
of the social security number. It also includes language which abolishes the stricter
requirements on legal immigrants, and streamlines overall language for clarity. She said that it
is a prelude to legislation to be introduced next year which will provide some internal
housekeeping.
A member of the Committee commended the Department in its attempt to simplify very complex
requirements and regulations.
MOTION: Rep. BLOCK moved that the Sub-Committee inform the full Committee
that they have found no reason to reject this rule. Motion carried by voice
vote.
The meeting adjourned at 10:04 a.m.
DATE: | January 28, 2004 |
TIME: | 1:30 P.M. |
PLACE: | Room 404 |
MEMBERS: | Chairman Sali, Vice Chairman Block, Representatives Eberle, Garrett, Kulczyk, McGeachin, Nielsen, Ring, Henbest, Martinez, Mitchell |
ABSENT/
EXCUSED: |
None were absent |
GUESTS: | See attached sign-in sheet |
Chairman Sali called the meeting to order at 1:35 P.M.
The Chairman reminded the Committee that three sets of minutes were Rep. Henbest questioned testimony as it was recorded for Dr. Meyer in Rep. Martinez inquired about the meeting of the Psycho-Social Rehab |
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MOTION: | Rep. Nielsen moved that the minutes of January 20, 2004 be approved as written. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
MOTION: | Rep. Ring moved that the minutes of January 26, 2004 be approved as written. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
Teri Ottens, Director of Community Action Partnership Association of Idaho, addressed the Committee. She gave an overview of the program. She explained that the Community Action Partnership Association of Idaho is an association of Idaho’s six Community Action Partnerships, the Idaho Migrant Council and Canyon County Organization on Aging, Weatherization and Human Services, all dedicated to promoting self-sufficiency through removing the causes and conditions of poverty in Idaho’s communities. In Idaho 11.8% of our population lives at or below poverty levels and an additional 11% are what are called the working poor – working but not making enough money to pay even the most basic of their living expenses. Programs provided by CAPs include: employment preparation and Community Action also mobilizes its partnerships into increased funding |
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Chairman Sali yielded the gavel to Vice Chairman Block. | |
RS 13668 | Rep. Garrett addressed the Committee. She explained that this bill would add language to the Idaho Code which would give patients who are subject to involuntary commitment the right to contact and communicate with representatives of the state protection and advocacy (P&A) system. This agency is designated by the governor under federal law to receive federal funds for the purpose of protecting the rights of people with disabilities. The P&A system must have authority to communicate with people who reside in treatment facilities to investigate allegations of abuse, neglect, and other rights violations. This bill clarifies in state law the rights that people involuntarily committed to the custody of the state have to communicate with representatives of the Idaho P&A. This bill also clarifies that the person’s right to communicate with their attorney includes the right to communicate with employees of their attorney’s firm. There is no Fiscal Impact to this legislation. Jim Baugh, Executive Director of Co-Ad, Inc, responded to a question Vice Chairman Block yielded the gavel to Chairman Sali. |
MOTION: | Rep. Martinez moved to send RS 13688 to Print. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
Docket 22-0103-0301 | Nancy Kerr, Executive Director of the Idaho State Board of Medicine, addressed the Committee regarding this pending fee rule. A public hearing was held in November 2003 and changes were made to the proposed rule. She explained that following three points of the rule: a.) the rule revises and updates the scope of practice definitions and provides clear requirements for the delegation of patient services by a supervising physician and provides method for requesting the approval of special procedures; b.) the rule provides for patient safety by limiting the numbers of physician extenders that a physician may safely supervise and provides for required review of education, training, and experience of each physician assistant assigned; c.) this rule provides housekeeping and grammar changes. By unanimous consent, the Committee’s report will reflect there was no |
Docket 22-0104-0301 | Nancy Kerr addressed the Committee regarding this pending fee rule. Notification had been provided to every licensee of the Board of Medicine newsletter in the summer of 2003. Negotiated rule processes for the Athletic Trainers and Physician’s Assistants had highlighted needed changes to these rules. Ms. Kerr explained that the purpose of the rule is for the following: a.) to By unanimous consent, the Committee’s report will reflect there was no |
Docket 22-0110-0301 | Nancy Kerr addressed the Committee. She explained that the pending rules before the House are the result of negotiated rule-making process with the chiropractic physicians association, athletic trainers association and physical therapist association representatives. Licensees of the Board were notified of the rule making process in the summer 2003 newsletter. The purpose of this rule is to update the rules for athletic trainers to By unanimous consent, the Committee’s report will reflect there was no |
Docket 22-0111-0301 | Nancy Kerr addressed the Committee regarding this pending fee rule. She explained that these rules are the result of negotiated rule-making process with the Polysomnographer’s Association and Respiratory Therapist Association representatives. Licenses of the Board were notified of the rule making process in the summer 2003 newsletter. Ms. Kerr further explained the purpose of the rules as follows: a.) to By unanimous consent, the Committee’s report will reflect there was no |
Docket-0309-0213 | Kathleen Allyn, Deputy Administrator for the Division of Medicaid, addressed the Committee. She explained that this rule implements a previous state statutory change and subsequent court ruling on state-funded abortions for low-income women. This same rule was presented last year as a temporary rule and the Committee voted to extend it. Ms. Allyn explained that in 2001 the Legislature amended Idaho law to Ms. Allyn further explained that this rule implements both the statutory By unanimous consent, the Committee’s report will reflect there was no |
Docket 16-0219-0301 | Dick Shultz, Administrator, Division of Health, addressed the Committee. He explained that this Docket contains the current food regulations, therefore, he would like to consider the new regulations in Docket 16-0219-0302 before reviewing the old rules. |
Docket 16-0219-0302 | Mr. Shultz proceeded to present this rule to the Committee. He began by stating that the last time these rules were updated in the state of Idaho was 1998. Our Attorney General recommended that the “interpretations” of the Food Protection Program be incorporated into rule. A Food Advisor Committee met last year and adopted the federal Food Code as referenced in these rules. He further explained that three public hearings were held in Boise, Pocatello and Coeur d’ Alene and out of those hearings, there were three areas of concern that have already been addressed. (See Attachment A). Mr. Shultz listed the ten substantive changes in the proposed new Idaho Mr. Shultz further explained that Senate Bill 1215 has passed the Questions and discussion followed. Among some of the points of Patrick Guzzle yielded to the Committee for clarification of how these A member from the Committee questioned the language under Section Chairman Sali yielded to Dennis Stevenson, Administrator, Office of Michelle Glascow, Executive Director Idaho Assisted Living Association, She further explained that smaller assisted living residences have unique Committee discussion followed. One of the main points of discussion Mr. Shultz yielded to this question by saying that since the Senate Michael Kane, attorney, representing the County Sheriffs Association, Mr. Kane yielded to a question from Rep. Kulczyk by saying that the Rep. Kulczyk commented that he does not think that the same rules apply to nursing homes and jails. Chairman Sali expressed his concern regarding staffing issues, the Rep. Garrett recommended that a task force be put together for further Chairman Sali directed Vice Chairman Block to chair a subcommittee |
ADJOURN: | As there was no further business to be brought before the Committee, Chairman Sali adjourned the meeting at 4:40 P.M. |
DATE: | January 29, 2004 |
TIME: | 3:30 p.m. |
PLACE: | Room 406 |
MEMBERS: | Chairman Garrett, Representatives Block, Kulczyk, Martinez, and Mitchell |
ABSENT/
EXCUSED: |
Representative Martinez |
GUESTS: | See attached list |
Chairman Garrett called the meeting to order at 3:37 p.m. with a quorum present |
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MINUTES: | Rep. Kulczyk moved that the minutes of January 26, 2004 be approved. Motion carried by voice vote. |
RULE:
15-0120-0301 |
Operation & Services Provided by Area on Aging
Ms. Sarah Scott spoke to the Committee regarding this rule. She stated |
MOTION: | Rep. Mitchell moved that the Subcommittee inform the full Committee that they have found no reason to reject this rule. Motion carried by voice vote. |
RULE:
16-0322-0301 |
Licensed Residential and Assisted Living Facilities in Idaho |
MOTION: | Rep. Kulczyk moved that this rule be held for review of full Committee. Motion carried by voice vote. |
RULE:
16-0309-0308 |
The Medical Assistance Program |
MOTION: | Rep. Kulczyk moved that this rule be held for review of full Committee. Motion carried by voice vote. |
RULE:
16-0305-0203 |
Aid to the Aged, Blind and Disabled
Ms. Terry Meyer, Deputy Administrator, Division of Welfare, spoke to the |
MOTION: | Rep. Mitchell moved that the Subcommittee inform the full Committee that they have found no reason to reject this rule. Motion carried by voice vote. |
RULE:
16-0305-0301 |
Aid to the Aged, Blind and Disabled
Ms. Terri Meyer spoke to the Committee regarding this rule. The |
MOTION: | Rep. Block moved that the Subcommittee inform the full Committee that they have found no reason to reject this rule. Motion carried by voice vote. |
RULE:
16-0305-0302 |
Aid to the Aged, Blind and Disabled
Ms. Terri Meyer spoke to the Committee regarding this rule. This rule Mr. W. Corey Cartwright, Deputy Attorney General, spoke regarding |
MOTION: | Rep. Kulczyk moved that the Subcommittee inform the full Committee that they have found no reason to reject this rule. Motion carried by voice vote. |
RULE:
16-0308-0301 |
Temporary Assistance for Families in Idaho
Ms. Terri Meyer spoke to the Committee regarding this rule. This rule |
MOTION: | Rep. Block moved that the Subcommittee inform the full Committee that they have found no reason to reject this rule. Motion carried by voice vote. |
RULE:
16-0308-0302 |
Temporary Assistance for Families in Idaho
Ms. Terri Meyer spoke to the Committee regarding this rule. This rule |
MOTION: | Rep. Kulczyk moved that the Subcommittee inform the full Committee that they have found no reason to reject this rule. Motion carried by voice vote. |
RULE:
16-0320-0301 |
Electronic Payments of Public Assistance, Food Stamps and Child Support Ms. Terry Meyer spoke to the Committee regarding this rule. This rule is |
MOTION: | Rep. Block moved that the Subcommittee inform the full Committee that they have found no reason to reject this rule. Motion carried by voice vote. |
RULE:
16-0414-0301 |
Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP)
Ms. Terri Meyer spoke to the Committee regarding this rule. This rule |
MOTION: | Rep. Kulczyk moved that the Subcommittee inform the full Committee that they have found no reason to reject this rule. Motion carried by voice vote. |
RULE:
16-0309-0212 |
The Medical Assistance Program
Ms. Leslie Clement spoke to the Committee regarding this rule. The |
MOTION: | Rep. Block moved that the Subcommittee inform the full Committee that they have found no reason to reject this rule. Motion carried by voice vote. |
RULE:
16-0309-0217 |
The Medical Assistance Program
Ms. Leslie Clement spoke to the Committee regarding this rule. This rule |
MOTION: | Rep. Block moved that the Subcommittee inform the full Committee that they have found no reason to reject this rule. Motion carried by voice vote. |
RULE:
16-0309-0218 |
The Medical Assistance Program
Ms. Leslie Clement spoke to the Committee regarding this rule. This rule |
MOTION: | Rep. Mitchell moved that the subcommittee inform the full committee that they have found no reason to reject this rule. Motion carried by voice vote. |
RULE:
16-0309-0301 |
The Medical Assistance Program
Ms. Leslie Clement spoke to the Committee regarding this rule. This rule |
MOTION: | Rep. Block moved that the Subcommittee inform the full Committee that they have found no reason to reject this rule. Motion carried by voice vote. |
RULE:
16-0309-0304 |
The Medical Assistance Program
Ms. Leslie Clement spoke to the Committee regarding this rule. This rule |
MOTION: | Rep. Kulczyk moved that the Subcommittee inform the full Committee that they have found no reason to reject this rule. Motion carried by voice vote. |
RULE:
16-0309-0310 |
The Medical Assistance Program
Ms. Leslie Clement spoke to the Committee regarding this rule. The School district providers are unique in that they fund the Medicaid state |
MOTION: | Rep. Block moved that the Subcommittee inform the full Committee that they have found no reason to reject this rule. Motion carried by voice vote. |
RULE:
16-0309-0305 |
The Medical Assistance Program
Mr. Paul Leary, Program Manager, Division of Medicaid, spoke to the |
MOTION: | Rep. Kulczyk moved that the Subcommittee inform the full Committee that they have found no reason to reject this rule. Motion carried by voice vote. |
RULE:
16-0317-0301 |
Service Coordination
Ms. Pamela Mason, spoke to the Committee regarding this rule. This Mr. Ken Mordan, Rules Specialist, stated that they will be putting forth Ms. Kelly Hall, Dunstan, Hall & Assoc., objected to these changes. Their |
MOTION: | Rep. Kulczyk moved that this rule be held for review of full Committee. Motion carried by voice vote. |
RULE:
16-0309-0214 |
The Medical Assistance Program |
MOTION: | Rep. Kulczyk moved that this rule be held for review of full Committee. Motion carried by voice vote. |
ADJOURN: | 5:25 p.m. |
DATE: | January 30, 2004 |
TIME: | 10:00 a.m. |
PLACE: | Room 412 |
MEMBERS: | Chairman Garrett, Representatives Block, Kulczyk, Martinez, and Mitchell |
ABSENT/
EXCUSED: |
Representative Mitchell |
GUESTS: | See attached |
Chairman Garrett called the meeting to order at 10:07 a.m. with a quorum present. |
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RULE:
16-0601-0301 |
Family and Children’s Services
Mr. Ken Deibert, Division Administrator for Family and Community |
MOTION: | Rep. Kulczyk moved that the Subcommittee inform the full Committee that they have found no reason to reject this rule. Motion carried by voice vote. |
RULE:
16-0601-0401 |
Family and Children’s Services
Mr. Ken Deibert spoke to the Committee regarding this rule. This rule is |
MOTION: | Rep. Block moved that the Subcommittee inform the full Committee that they have found no reason to reject this rule. Motion carried by voice vote. |
RULE:
16-0614-0201 |
Prevention of Minor’s Access to Tobacco Products
Ms. Terry Pappin, Program Specialist, Division of Family and Community |
MOTION: | Rep. Martinez moved that the Subcommittee inform the full Committee that they have found no reason to reject this rule. Motion carried by voice vote. |
RULE:
19-0101-0301 |
Code of Professional Conduct and Advertising
Mr. Mike Sheeley, Executive Director, Idaho State Board of Dentistry This rule will also specify those dental specialities which are recognized This rule will also define advertising terms and delineate what conduct |
MOTION: | Rep. Martinez moved that the Subcommittee inform the full Committee that they have found no reason to reject this rule. Motion carried by voice vote. |
RULE:
24-0601-0301 |
Hearing Aid Dealers and Fitters
Ms. Rayola Jacobsen, Bureau Chief, Bureau of Occupational Licenses, This rule adds required sections; clarifies application fees and license |
MOTION: | Rep. Kulczyk moved that the Subcommittee inform the full Committee that they have found no reason to reject this rule. Motion carried by voice vote. |
RULE:
24-1001-0301 |
Optometry
Ms. Rayola Jacobsen spoke to the Committee regarding this rule. This |
MOTION: | Rep. Block moved that the Subcommittee inform the full Committee that they have found no reason to reject this rule. Motion carried by voice vote. |
RULE:
24-1201-0301 |
Psychologist Examiners
Ms. Rayola Jacobsen spoke to the Committee regarding this rule. This |
MOTION: | Rep. Kulczyk moved that the Subcommittee inform the full Committee that they have found no reason to reject this rule. Motion carried by voice vote. |
RULE:
241401-0301 |
Social Work Examiners
Mr. Roger Hales, Attorney, Idaho Bureau of Occupational License, spoke Ms. Linda Burch, President, National Association of Social Workers, Mr. Ray Millar, Central Office Program Manager, Adult Mental Health, Mr. Robert Payne, Chairman, Idaho Board of Social Work Examiners Mr. Greg Dickerson, Mental Health Providers Association of Idaho, |
MOTION: | Rep. Martinez moved that the Subcommittee inform the full Committee that they have found no reason to reject this rule. Motion passed on voice vote with Rep. Kulczyk voting nay. He was not comfortable with the flexibility this rule affords. |
RULE:
24-1501-0301 |
Marriage and Family Therapists
Ms. Rayola Jacobsen spoke to the Committee regarding this rule. This |
MOTION: | Rep. Kulczyk moved that the Subcommittee inform the full Committee that they have found no reason to reject this rule. Motion passed on voice vote. |
RULE:
24-1701-0301 |
Acupuncture
Ms. Rayola Jacobsen spoke to the Committee regarding this rule. This |
MOTION: | Rep. Martinez moved that the Subcommittee inform the full Committee that they have found no reason to reject this rule. Motion passed on voice vote. |
RULE:
24-1901-0301 |
Residential Care Facility Administrators
Ms. Rayola Jacobsen spoke to the Committee regarding this rule. This |
MOTION: | Rep. Kulczyk moved that the Subcommittee inform the full Committee that they have found no reason to reject this rule. Motion passed on voice vote. |
Chairman Garrett did recuse herself from discussion regarding the following five (5) rules. The gavel was turned over to Vice-Chairman Block. |
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RULE:
16-0310-0203 |
Medicaid Provider Reimbursement
Ms. Sheila Pugatch, Senior Financial Specialist, Division of Medicaid |
MOTION: | Rep. Martinez moved that the Subcommittee inform the full Committee that they have found no reason to reject this rule. Motion passed on voice vote. |
RULE:
16-0310-0204 |
Medicaid Provider Reimbursement
Ms. Sheila Pugatch, spoke to the Committee regarding this rule. This |
MOTION: | Rep. Kulczyk moved that the Subcommittee inform the full Committee that they have found no reason to reject this rule. Motion passed on voice vote. |
RULE:
16-0310-0301 |
Medicaid Provider Reimbursement
Ms. Sheila Pugatch spoke to the Committee regarding this rule. This |
MOTION: | Rep. Martinez moved that the Subcommittee inform the full Committee that they have found no reason to reject this rule. Motion passed on voice vote. |
RULE:
16-0310-0302 |
Medicaid Provider Reimbursement
Ms. Sheila Pugatch spoke to the Committee regarding this rule. This |
MOTION: | Rep. Kulczyk moved that the Subcommittee inform the full Committee that they have found no reason to reject this rule. Motion passed on voice vote. |
RULE:
16-0310-0303 |
Medicaid Provider Reimbursement
Ms. Sheila Pugatch spoke to the Committee regarding this rule. This |
MOTION: | Rep. Kulczyk moved that the Subcommittee inform the full Committee that they have found no reason to reject this rule. Motion passed on voice vote. |
Rep. Garrett again took up the role as Chairman of this Committee. The gavel was handed to Chairman Garrett from Rep. Block. |
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RULE:
16-0603-0301 |
Minimum Standards governing Alcohol/Drug Abuse Prevention & Treatment Programs Mr. Pharis Stanger, Substance Abuse Program Manager, Department of |
MOTION: | Rep. Martinez moved that the Subcommittee inform the full Committee that they have found no reason to reject this rule. Motion passed on voice vote. |
RULE:
16-0613-0301 |
Emergency Assistance for Families and Children
Ms. Mardell Nelson, Program Manager, Division of Family and |
MOTION: | Rep. Block moved that the Subcommittee inform the full Committee that they have found no reason to reject this rule. Motion passed on voice vote. |
RULE:
16-0613-0302 |
Emergency Assistance for Families and Children
Ms. Mardell Nelson spoke to the Committee regarding this rule. This |
MOTION: | Rep. Martinez moved that the Subcommittee inform the full Committee that they have found no reason to reject this rule. Motion passed on voice vote. |
Chairman Garrett stated that there were four Rules from the meeting on January 29, 2004 that did not meet requirements of non-confrontational rules: RULE: 16-0322-0301 RULE: 16-0309-0308 RULE: 16-0317-0301 RULE: 16-0309-0214 Additionally: on one rule from the January 26, 2004 meeting, the RULE: 16-0301-0302 |
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MOTION: | Rep. Block moved that the list of Rules that appear without conflict be recommended to the full Committee and that the five (5) rules referenced above be referred to the full Committee for consideration. Motion carried by voice vote. |
Rep. Martinez stated that his name should be included in the list of Subcommittee members. Chairman Garrett agreed to talk to Chairman Sali. Chairman Garrett thanked the Committee members for their hard work |
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Meeting adjourned: 12:03 p.m. |
DATE: | February 2, 2004 |
TIME: | 1:30 P.M. |
PLACE: | Room 404 |
MEMBERS: | Chairman Sali, Vice Chairman Block, Representatives Eberle, Garrett, Kulczyk, McGeachin, Nielsen, Ring, Henbest, Martinez, Mitchell |
ABSENT/
EXCUSED: |
None |
GUESTS: | See attached list |
Chairman Sali called the meeting to order at 1:35 P.M. | |
The Chairman asked the Committee to review the minutes of January 22, 2004 for approval. |
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MOTION: | Rep. Garrett moved that the minutes of January 22, 2004 be approved as written. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
The minutes of January 28, 2004 will be presented for review and approval at the next meeting. Chairman Sali announced to the Committee that he has been asked by Rep. Garrett suggested that Karl Kurtz, Director of the Health and Rep. Mitchell shared that there are some excellent printed materials Chairman Sali shared with the Committee that guardianship issues have |
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Jim Hardenbrook, representing Healthy Families Nampa presented to the Committee this Faith-Based initiative. He stated that this organization is comprised of religious, civic and business leaders in the Nampa community. The program is focused on improving the well-being of children by promoting healthy marriages and responsible fatherhood. In 2000, there were 6,874 divorces in Idaho which cost the state and the U.S. government an estimated $206 million. Mr. Hardenbrook explained that their goal is to make Nampa a Father Doug Yarbrough, Rector of Grace Episcopal Church in Nampa, addressed the Committee Keith Fletcher, member of Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, Terry Smith, Executive Director, distributed to the members a handout Mr. Hardenbrook responded to a question of the Committee by |
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RS 13468C2 | Rayola Jacobsen, Occupational License Bureau, addressed the Committee regarding this bill. Rayola explained that the purpose of this bill is to incorporate the necessary language changes to clarify intent. This bill clarifies that each person submitting an application for licensure to practice social work shall pay an application fee, determined by the Board’s rules which shall not exceed $75.00 and will include the original license fee. |
MOTION: | Rep. Kulczyk moved to send RS 13468C2 to Print |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
HB 551 | Rayola Jacobsen addressed the Committee explaining that this bill adds language that clarifies the conditions that would qualify for non-issuance and/or revocation of licenses. This will allow the Board to take action against anyone violating the rules as promulgated by the Board and approved by this legislative body. |
MOTION: | Rep. Ring moved to send HB 551 to the Floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. Rep. Ring will sponsor the bill. |
HB 553 | Rayola Jacobsen addressed the Committee explaining that this bill is in response to the request from the public. This bill increases the Board membership by the addition of a lay member which broadens the representation of the Board. She explained that this also broadens the list of nominees the Governor may choose from and enables a nomination process to go forth smoothly. |
MOTION: | Rep. Henbest moved to send HB 553 to the Floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. Rep. Henbest will sponsor the bill. |
Docket 16-0301-0302 | Greg Kunz, Department of Health and Welfare addressed the Committee regarding this rule. He explained that Section 214 clarifies that SSN’s must be verified before eligibility is determined for benefits for Medicaid. He said that there is minimal effect on the Fiscal Impact. Mr. Kunz stated that the way the language in Section 346-349 is currently written, 200 children from the CHIP program would be removed. He asked that the Committee reject these sections but accept Section 214. Rep. Garrett commented that the Subcommittee concluded that the way |
MOTION: | Rep. McGeachin moved that the Committee accept the recommendation made by the Subcommittee to approve Section 214 of Docket 16-0301-0302 and reject sections 346-349. There was discussion on the motion. Chairman Sali explained that in approving Section 214, the Committee will be affirmatively stating that the Docket meets with legislative intent. Dennis Stevenson yielded to the Committee by confirming that Section |
MOTION: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
ADJOURN: | The meeting was adjourned at 2:50 P.M. |
DATE: | February 2, 2004 |
TIME: | 3:05 P.M. |
PLACE: | Room 404 |
MEMBERS: | Chairman Block, Representatives Kulczyk, McGeachin, Nielsen, Henbest |
ABSENT/
EXCUSED: |
Rep. McGeachin |
GUESTS: | None |
Chairman Block called the meeting to order at 3:05 P.M.
The Chairman announced to the Committee that the purpose of the The members were given a handout listing six areas of research to be 1. The circumstances that prompted the promulgation of the rule 2. A complete account of the facilities, organizations, businesses 3. A complete account of the difference between the standards in 4. An accurate estimate of the fiscal impact to governments as 5. The training available to those whom the rules impact to assist 6. Issues that may arise with the transition from the old standards Chairman Block assigned Rep. Henbest to research areas No’s. 1, 5, 6; Chairman Block asked the Committee to report their findings at the next The Chairman made the following announcements:
Rep. Henbest commented by making a suggestion that some of the Chairman Block stated that the scope of this effort is to find additional |
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ADJOURN: | Chairman Block adjourned the meeting at 3:20 P.M. |
DATE: | February 4, 2004 |
TIME: | 1:30 P.M. |
PLACE: | Room 404 |
MEMBERS: | Chairman Sali, Vice Chairman Block, Representatives Eberle, Garrett, Kulczyk, McGeachin, Nielsen, Ring, Henbest, Martinez, Mitchell |
ABSENT/
EXCUSED: |
None |
GUESTS: | See attached list |
Chairman Sali called the meeting to order at 1:35 P.M. | |
The Chairman asked the Committee to review the minutes of January 28 and February 2. |
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MOTION: | Rep. Nielsen moved that the minutes of January 28, 2004 be approved as written. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
MOTION: | Rep. Nielsen moved that the minutes of February 2, 2004 be approved as written. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
Chairman Sali asked that Committee that if there was no objection he would like to change the status of the subcommittee on guardianship issues to a workgroup. The members who are Democrats are having difficulty rearranging their workload to have representation for a subcommittee. This workgroup will include Rep. Nielsen, advisors from the Department, and other interested parties. The Committee did not object. Chairman Sali announced that his presentation originally scheduled |
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Chairman Sali announced that he would like to hold a meeting on Friday, February 6 to dispatch further Committee business in reviewing rules. The target date for the report to the Speaker is Friday February 6. |
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Karl Kurtz, Director of the Department of Health and Welfare addressed the Committee. He gave a summary of the presentation on the budget he had given to JFAC. He explained three decision units that were used in determining the amount of supplemental funds they would be requesting over and above the base appropriation. First is – the Infant and Toddler Program ($250,000); second – the Foster Care Program ($161,000); third the Medicaid Program. He explained that 80% of Medicaid goes to providers and 70% of Health and Welfare is for Medicaid. He explained that the CHIP B/Access Card program, which is part of the supplemental fund request, provides insurance opportunities for the working poor to buy into an employer group or insurance program. There will be 5600 children enrolled by July 1, 2004 and another 11,000 who will be eligible that arise from the “wood work” effect. In addition there is an anticipated 12,000 coming in under Medicaid. He further explained that the Department is asking for a total of 39 million for trustee benefits. Mr. Kurtz invited questions from the Committee. Some of the concerns considered were: constituents as well as |
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Richard Burns, Analyst for Legislative Services, began his presentation by directing the attention of the Committee to the bottom chart on the front page of the handout they had been given (see attached). He explained that this chart shows the change in full-time equivalent positions (FTP) for the state as a whole and for the Department of Health and Welfare. He further noted that since 1994 through 2004, FTP grew by 812 or 5% statewide, but declined by 438 in the Department of Health and Welfare for an overall decrease of about 11%. This was after adjusting for programs and FTP’s transferred out of the Department over this same period of time. On pages 2 and 3, Mr. Burns further explained the changes in authorized Mr. Burns then turned to page 4 and walked the Committee through Turning to page 6, Mr. Burns informed the Committee that the Legislature In addition, Mr. Burns also noted, in referring to page 7 of the handout, Mr. Burns then briefly reviewed page 8 of his presentation that showed Finally, Mr. Burns turned to page 10 of his handout reviewing for the |
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Presentation by Providers |
Chris Johnson, representing Case Managers Association of Idaho, addressed the Committee. She referenced a handout the members had been given illustrating a historical comparison of state employee pay increases versus medicaid provider cost of living adjustments to case management rates. She stated that private providers can no longer bear the brunt of the effects of inflation on their ability to deliver the best service and have fallen far behind in their ability to keep up with Idaho’s ever-increasing cost of living. She explained that her association and members have approached the past three governors, JFAC, and the Department many times with no resolution. She explained that private providers are requesting that the Department establish a methodology for periodic review of rates. |
Shelley Holmes, Idaho Association of DD Agencies (IADDA), addressed the Committee. She distributed a handout of her testimony and one of Cynthia Dunagan of the ID Association of Residential Habilitation Agencies. Ms. Holmes noted in her handout a comparison of the rising costs of operating expenses from July 1999 to the present. She explained that IADDA is asking for support from this Committee to ensure the Department establishes a consistent methodology to adjust reimbursement rates on a regular basis. (see attachment). |
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Laura Scuri, Vice President, Mental Health Association of Idaho, addressed the Committee. She explained that employee turnover for providers is a huge problem. Many leave a private provider association to gain employment with the Department because salary and benefits are greater. Ms. Scuri asked that the Committee urge the Department to establish a method of working cooperatively with providers to provide ongoing dialogue between the groups on reimbursement rates. Chairman Sali asked David Rogers, Department administrator to yield, Chairman Sali asked if Mr. Rogers would provide a letter from the Rep. Garrett commented that she believes a mechanism is needed that |
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HB 605 | Rayola Jacobsen, Bureau Chief of the Department, addressed the Committee. She stated that the purpose of the bill is to clarify the language in the statutes making it clear that the application fee for initial licensure includes the original license fee. |
MOTION: | Rep. Ring moved to send HB 605 to the Floor with a Do Pass recommendation. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. Rep. Block will sponsor the bill. |
SCR 120 | Rep. Garrett addressed the Committee regarding this concurrent resolution. She explained that the Subcommittee heard the corresponding rule Docket 16-0301-0302 and recommended to the full Committee to retain Section 214 relating to verifying SSN’s. The Department requested that Section 346-349 be rejected because this part of the rule adversely impacts over 200 children in the CHIP program. |
MOTION: | Rep. McGeachin moved to send SCR 120 to the Floor with a Do Pass recommendation. There was discussion on the motion. |
SUBSTITUTE MOTION: |
Rep. Kulczyk moved to hold SCR 120 in Committee. He commented that he is not in favor of this bill. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION FAILED. |
VOTE ON ORIGINAL MOTION: |
ON A VOICE VOTE THE ORIGINAL MOTION CARRIED. Rep. Kulczyk voted nay. Rep. Garrett will sponsor the Resolution. |
Chairman Sali yielded the gavel to Vice Chairman Block. | |
RS 13888 | Chairman Sali addressed the Committee on this bill. The intent of the bill is to afford the people of Idaho a legal right to receive copies of their health care records. |
MOTION: | Rep. Mitchell moved to send RS 13888 to Print. There was discussion on the motion. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
Vice Chairman Block yielded the gavel back to Chairman Sali. | |
ADJOURN: | As there was no further business to be brought before the Committee, Chairman Sali adjourned the meeting at 4:20 P.M. |
DATE: | February 4, 2004 |
TIME: | Upon Adjournment |
PLACE: | Room 404 |
MEMBERS: | Chairman Block, Representatives Kulczyk, McGeachin, Nielsen, Henbest |
ABSENT/
EXCUSED: |
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Chairman Block called the meeting to order at 5:20 P.M.
She explained that the purpose of the meeting was to hear reports from |
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MOTION: | Rep. Nielsen moved to approve the minutes of February 2 as written. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
Rep. Henbest reported on Area #1 (circumstances that prompted the promulgation of the rule dockets). She provided materials she had been given from the Department explaining reasons for updating the food rules, available training options, and some of the obstacles that the new food rules are likely to present to the industry (see attached). Rep. Nielsen reported on Area #2 (complete account of the facilities, Rep. McGeachin reported in Area #3 (complete account of the difference Rep. Kulczyk reported on Area #4 (an accurate estimate of the fiscal Rep. Henbest reported on Area #5 (training available to those whom the Rep. Henbest reported on Area #6 (issues that may arise with the Chairman Block thanked the Committee for their work and announced |
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ADJOURN: | Chairman Block adjourned the meeting at 5:45 P.M. |
DATE: | February 6, 2004 |
TIME: | Upon Adjournment |
PLACE: | Room 404 |
MEMBERS: | Chairman Sali, Vice Chairman Block, Representatives Eberle, Garrett, Kulczyk, McGeachin, Nielsen, Ring, Henbest, Martinez, Mitchell |
ABSENT/
EXCUSED: |
None |
GUESTS: | See attached sign-in sheet. |
Chairman Sali called the meeting to order at 8:40 P.M. | |
RS 13647 | Rep. Donna Boe addressed the Committee. She explained that this bill is designed to continue a program that has already been in effect since the year 2000. This legislature made it possible to provide food stamps and temporary cash assistance to persons convicted of a drug related felony occurring after August 22, 1996 provided they are in compliance with probation and parole. She explained that all this legislation does is strike the sunset provision to let the present methods continue. She responded to a question from a Committee member that there is no fiscal impact. |
MOTION: | Rep. Henbest moved to send RS 13647 to Print. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
RS 13904 | Michelle Glasgow, Executive Director of Idaho Assisted Living Facilities Association addressed the Committee. She explained that the purpose of this bill is to require that for all purposes relevant to the survey process of assisted living facilities, that Medicaid accept staffing ratios that were previously determined sufficient to meet the needs of the residents through the Uniform Assessment Instrument required for every individual in assisted living facilities. She further explained that UAI and the Facilities Standards Survey reports are often in conflict. The recommendations of number of staff needed through the UAI will differ from the number of staff deemed necessary when Facility Standards performs a survey of the facility. She commented that the burden falls on the facility to try to provide staff for which they are not given any reimbursement. There were questions and discussion from the Committee. |
MOTION: | Rep. Kulczyk moved to send RS 13904 to Print. There was discussion on the motion. The Committee brought to the attention of the Chair that the word “unfounded” in the Statement of Purpose should be correctly written as “unfunded.” |
SUBSTITUTE MOTION: |
Rep. McGeachin moved to send RS 13904 to Print with the correction of replacing the word “unfounded” with the word “unfunded” in the Statement of Purpose. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
RS 13905 | Michelle Glasgow, addressed the Committee. She explained that the purpose of this bill is to allow for the use of electronic signatures in documentation management systems in assisted living residences. Electronic signatures may be used for both documentation maintenance, and where applicable, for transfer of information from the residences to the Department of Health and Welfare for documentation verification and the documentation verification portion of the survey process. This process increases efficiencies and provides increased accountability, security and documentation verification. This procedure provides a signature and an indelible electronic paper trail of the time, date and location of the signature. There were questions and discussion from the Committee. Rep. Sali pointed out the language Line 17, Section 1 suggesting that the |
MOTION: | Rep. Ring moved to send RS 13905 to Print with the change in the language in Line 17, Section 1 of striking the word “of” and inserting the words “regarding the identity of the person.” |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
DOCKET 16-0317-0301 | Paul Leary, Program Manager for the Department of Health and Welfare addressed the Committee regarding this rule docket. He explained that this pending rule is a re-write of the current four sections of Medical Assistance rules pertaining to case management services for individuals with developmental disabilities (DD), individuals receiving personal care services, individuals with mental illness, and children meeting certain medical criteria. The Chapter defines the requirements for eligibility, case management functions, availability and access to services, provider qualifications, agency responsibilities, and required documentation and payment for service limitations. Mr. Leary explained that a provider had expressed concern during the Chairman Sali requested that Mr. Leary provide a letter to the Committee The report to the Speaker will reflect that the Committee found no basis |
DOCKET 16-0322-0301 | Debbie Ransom Bureau of Facility Services of the Department of Health and Welfare addressed the Committee. She explained that Section 428 was amended to cite the Board of Nursing rules without referencing specific sections due to changes made to those rules. This rule was also amended to delete a statement that is in conflict with the Board of Pharmacy rules. This rule removes language that allowed a licensed nurse to fill Medi-sets for patients. This amendment only allows the pharmacist to fill Medi-sets. Michelle Glasgow spoke in opposition to this rule change. She shared Ms. Ransom answered a question by giving the two options of packaging Another concern considered was the increase in cost for the facility due to Chairman Sali asked the Committee to consider the options for accepting |
MOTION: | Rep Kulczyk moved to hold Docket 16-0322-0301 in Committee to a time certain until the pleasure of the Chair. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
April Crandall, Director Mental Health Provider’s Association, addressed the Committee. She shared that the meeting with providers and the Department on February 5, 2004 was successful. She commented that there had been positive, open dialogue and she believes the Department is committed to participating in ongoing meetings. Ms. Crandall distributed a handout to the members illustrating a pathway of services for the mental health consumer. |
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ADJOURN: | There being no further business, Chairman Sali adjourned the meeting at 10:30 A.M. |
DATE: | February 10, 2004 |
TIME: | 3:00 P.M. |
PLACE: | Room 404 |
MEMBERS: | Chairman Sali, Vice Chairman Block, Representatives Eberle, Garrett, Kulczyk, McGeachin, Nielsen, Ring, Henbest, Martinez, Mitchell |
ABSENT/
EXCUSED: |
None |
GUESTS: | See sign-in sheet |
Vice Chairman Block called the meeting to order at 3:00 P.M. | |
Vice Chairman Block asked the Committee to review the minutes from February 4 and February 6. |
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MOTION: | Rep. Kulczyk moved that the minutes of February 4 be accepted as written. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
MOTION: | Rep. Henbest moved that the minutes of February 6 be accepted as written. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
Vice Chairman Block yielded the gavel back to Chairman Sali.
Chairman Sali addressed the Committee regarding SCR 120 concurrent |
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MOTION: | Rep. Garrett moved to bring SCR 120 back to the Committee for further discussion and testimony. There was discussion on the motion. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
Chairman Sali asked the Committee to review the report from the Garrett Subcommittee that was in their folders. Chairman Sali asked the Committee to decide whether or not they would like the report to the Speaker to reflect that the Committee has accepted the recommendations as indicated in the report of the Garrett Subcommittee as written. There was no objection. |
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Presentation: |
Kelly Buckland, Director, Idaho Independent Living Association, addressed the Committee on the Medicaid Buy-In Program for Idahoans with disabilities and provided handouts for the members (see attachments). He explained that this program would allow recipients to continue working or return to work without the risk of losing vital Medicaid benefits. Currently if a person’s income is below a certain level, he or she receives full Medicaid benefits; if a person makes one dollar more, he or she receives nothing. He expressed that a Medicaid buy-in program would enable Idahoans with disabilities to: achieve self-sufficiency and independence; integrate skilled recipients into the work force and transition off of Medicaid; contribute to society as they pay taxes and reduce or eliminate their need for public assistance. Mr. Buckland stated that in 2003 Governor Kempthorne’s Blue Ribbon 2020 Task Force recommended that the state implement a Medicaid Buy-In Program. He also stated that Idaho was awarded a 2.1 million dollar grant from the Health Care Financing Administration (HCFA) to analyze and design a Medicaid buy-in initiative for legislative consideration in 2002. Mr. Buckland replied to a question by a Committee member by saying Steven Rodoletz, E.D., Idaho Benefits Planning Assistance and |
HB 627 | Rep. Donna Boe addressed the Committee. She explained that this legislation allows for a program to continue by removing the sunset provision that provides food stamps and temporary cash assistance to persons convicted of a drug related felony provided they are in compliance with probation and parole. She further explained the struggle these offenders face to reconnect to their families, stay off of drugs, and be able to support and provide for their families economically. She noted from one of two handouts distributed to the members a chart depicting the number of families on the program and the costs associated with services provided. She noted the second handout a letter from a prison warden expressing that at least 50% of female offenders paroled will return to their dependant children upon their release (handouts attached). |
MOTION: | Rep. Martinez moved to send HB 627 to the Floor with a Do Pass recommendation. There was discussion on the motion. |
SUBSTITUTE MOTION: |
Rep. Kulczyk moved to sent HB 627 to General Orders with an amendment to remove the words “cash assistance” from Line 35. There was discussion on the motion. Chairman Sali asked Jenie Sue Weppner, Department of Health and |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE ORIGINAL MOTION CARRIED. Rep. Kulczyk is recorded as voting nay. Rep. Boe will sponsor the bill. |
RS 13879 and RS 13895 |
Rep. McGeachin addressed the Committee. She explained that the purpose of this memorial is to encourage the U.S. Congress to amend Section 1917 (b) (1) (C) of the Social Security Act by deleting May 14, 1993 as the deadline for approval by states of long-term care partnership plans. This will allow all states the right to participate in long-term care partnership plans. Rep. McGeachin believes this bill will save the tax payers of Idaho a $143 million annually, $43.7 million is the state’s share. This bill would |
MOTION: | Rep. Block moved to send RS 13879 and RS 13895 to Print. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
RS 13959 | Rep. McGeachin addressed the Committee. She explained that the purpose of this resolution is to give legislative direction to the Department of Health and Welfare in relation to Medicaid private providers. During times when money is tight and more demands are being placed on Medicaid private providers, it is important for good communication to be maintained between the two parties. This legislation encourages the Department to meet with providers on an annual basis in a “good faith” effort to work out the challenges they are being faced with. |
MOTION: | Rep. Block moved to send RS 13959 to print. There was discussion on the motion. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. Rep. Mitchell is recorded as voting nay. |
RS 13994 | Randy Hudspeth, Nurse Practitioner, addressed the Committee. He explained that this legislation clarifies the current relationship between advanced practice professional nurses (APPNs and physicians. He further explained that this bill will amend the Nursing Practitioners Act definitions for advanced practice professional nursing by deleting language that states the requirement of physician supervision. |
MOTION: | Rep. Nielsen moved to send RS 13994 to print. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
Chairman Sali yielded the gavel to Vice Chairman Block. | |
RS 13971 | Jim Jones, attorney with Jim Jones And Associates, addressed the Committee. He explained that this bill amends Chapter 46, Title 54, Idaho Code, to include licensed professional nurses in the category of providers that are required to furnish certain job-related information to professional licensing boards. The information is designed to put the public on notice of certain background information pertaining to the professionals, including criminal convictions, disciplinary action, malpractice information, and the like. The reporting requirements for all providers are expanded to include instances where providers who are authorized to handle controlled substances have been disciplined or convicted for abuse of such substances. The legislation also imposes certain reporting requirements on employers of such providers. |
MOTION: | Rep. Kulczyk moved to send RS 13971 to print. There was discussion on the Motion. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
ADJOURN: | Vice Chairman Block adjourned the meeting at 5:00 P.M. |
DATE: | February 10, 2004 |
TIME: | Upon Adjournment of full Committee. |
PLACE: | Room 404 |
MEMBERS: | Chairman Block, Representatives Kulczyk, McGeachin, Nielsen, Henbest |
ABSENT/
EXCUSED: |
None |
Docket
16-0219-0302 |
Vice Chairman Block called the meeting to order at 5:10 P.M. |
MOTION: | Rep. Kulczyk moved to approve the minutes of February 4, 2004. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
Dick Schultz addressed the Committee. He provided the members with a bound copy of the new, proposed safety rules as well as a copy of the existing safety rules. He also provided the Committee with a list of persons who have been involved in the preparation of these rules. |
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Chairman Block made the following announcements:
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ADJOURN: |
Chairman Block adjourned the meeting at 5:22 P.M. |
DATE: | February 12, 2004 |
TIME: | 1:30 P.M. |
PLACE: | Room 404 |
MEMBERS: | Chairman Sali, Vice Chairman Block, Representatives Eberle, Garrett, Kulczyk, McGeachin, Nielsen, Ring, Henbest, Martinez, Mitchell |
ABSENT/
EXCUSED: |
Rep. Kulczyk |
GUESTS: | See attached list. |
Vice Chairman Block brought the meeting to order at 1:35 P.M. She invited Brent Reinke, Director of Idaho Department of Juvenile Corrections to address the Committee. |
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Brent Reinke gave an overview of the department and referred to a handout he provided to the Committee. He explained that the Department provides services to adjudicated youth committed to its custody and has developed active partnerships with agencies, courts, counties, and others to prevent and reduce juvenile crime. He noted on page 2 of the handout that there are 170,936 10 to 17 year-olds in the state of Idaho as of August, 2003. Of that population, 8.4% are juvenile arrests, 5.1% are juvenile petitions, and .2% end up in prison. Ryan Hulbert, PhD of Clinical Services, addressed the Committee. He |
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Dr. Stan Weed, PhD, representing the Institute for Research and Evaluation, SLC, Utah, gave an overview of the serious health and social problems associated with adolescent sexual activity. Unwed teen pregnancy and birth rates in the U.S. have shown some recent decline, but remain at unacceptable high levels – one in 11 girls becomes pregnant by the 12th grade; the percentage of teen births occurring outside of marriage continues to increase. Rates of STDs have reached epidemic levels and continue to increase. There are more than twenty-five different types of STDs many of which cause lasting and permanent damage and sometimes death. He explained that years of research and rigorous studies of the best ways to develop programs aimed at decreasing adolescent sexual risk-taking behaviors are showing that the paradigm is shifting from the traditional approach of risk reduction strategy to a risk prevention approach. He shared the failure rates of various contraceptive devices. Dr. Weed concludes that the emergence of abstinence education is |
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Vice Chairman Block yielded the gavel back to Chairman Sali. | |
Chairman Sali asked the Committee to review the minutes of
February 10. |
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MOTION: | Rep. Eberle moved to accept the minutes of February 10, 2004. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
HB 579 | Jim Baugh, Director Co-Ad, Inc., addressed the Committee explaining that this bill includes an amendment with the correction on page 2 of the printed bill, line 36, deleting the section number “6042” and inserting the correct number “15043.” He explained that this bill would give patients who are subject to involuntary commitment the right to contact and communicate with representatives of the state protection and advocacy system (P&A). The P&A system must have authority to communicate with people who reside in treatment facilities, to investigate allegations of abuse, neglect, and other rights of people who are involuntarily committed to the custody of the state to communicate with representatives of the Idaho P&A. This bill also allows the person’s right to communicate with employees of their attorney’s firm. (See attached handouts – “Consortium for Idahoans with Disabilities”, “Comprehensive Advocacy, Inc.”) |
MOTION: | Rep. Eberle moved to send HB 579 to General Orders with Committee amendments attached. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
RS 13454C1 | Sandra Evans, Director, Idaho State Board of Nursing addressed the Committee. She explained that this bill amends the Idaho Code to authorize regulation of nursing assistants by the Board of Nursing, to include establishing requirements, including education and training, for licensure for persons practicing as nursing assistants and to establish fees for initial licensure and renewal. (See attachment for more detail of testimony.) Committee discussion followed. Some of the considerations were the cost of this effort and the language as currently written in the bill, primarily having to do with the definition of “nursing assistant.” |
MOTION: | Rep. Ring moved to send RS 13454C1 to Print. Committee discussion followed. |
SUBSTITUTE MOTION: |
Rep. Eberle moved to return RS 13454C1 to the sponsor. Committee discussion followed. |
AMENDED SUBSTITUTE MOTION: |
Rep. Henbest moved to send RS 13454C1 to Print with the following change made on Page 3, Line 18 and 19 deleting the words “or is employed to perform or provide nursing care functions.” |
Michelle Glasgow, Executor Director, Idaho Assisted Living Association, addressed the Committee in opposition to this bill. She explained that this bill will affect unlicenced care givers as well as CNA’s who are the backbone of these facilities. Assisted Living Facilities are more and more hiring CNA’s to fill these positions. She is also concerned with how this will affect Certified Family Homes, ICFMR’s day services, care givers of disabled living independently, individual school personnel in rural areas assisting children with routine medications, and day care workers. She is concerned about the definition of “nursing care functions” currently written in the language. Keith Holloway, CEO Western Health Care Corporation, addressed the Rick Holloway, President, Western Health Care Corporation addressed Chairman Sali put the Committee at ease. Robert VandeMeure, addressed the Committee in opposition of this bill. |
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VOTE: | On a Roll Call Vote the Amended Substitute Motion passed. Representatives Eberle, McGeachin, Nielsen voted Nay. |
RS 13455C1 | Sandra Evans addressed the Committee. She explained that this bill proposes amendments to the Idaho Nursing Practice Act to authorize the Board of Nursing to require applicants for initial licensure and reinstatement of licensure to submit to criminal background checks. She further explained that this legislation is necessary to comply with federal laws which requires that state agencies implementing criminal background checks must have authority to do so set out in state statute. (See attachment for further testimony.) |
MOTION: | Rep. Henbest moved to send RS 13455C1 to Print |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
Chairman Sali yielded the gavel to Vice Chairman Block. | |
RS 14007 | Rep. Sali addressed the Committee. He explained that he had been asked to introduce this bill regarding the regulation of naturapathic practitioners. This bill deals with three different levels, registration, certification and licensure and a naturapathic counsel. He further explained that this bill sets out qualifications of these three levels. |
MOTION: | Rep. Henbest moved to send RS 14007 to Print with the request that if there is another bill regarding the same legislation that it be presented to this body. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
RS 14050 | Chairman Sali addressed the Committee explaining that this RS would not be taken up at this time. He further explained that this RS had been inadvertently printed as a bill. |
Vice Chairman Block yielded the gavel back to Chairman Sali. | |
RS 14029C1 | Rep. Henbest addressed the Committee. She explained that this bill directs the department of Health and Welfare to apply for a waiver from the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services to conduct a pilot project to determine the effectiveness and projected cost savings which may result from providing reimbursement for weight control therapies, including anorexic drugs, and nutritional, diet and exercise counseling. She further explained that in situations where a physician tries to assist a patient with getting their weight control, there is no reimbursement by the insurance companies. |
MOTION: | Rep. Eberle moved to send RS 14029C1 to Print. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
RS 14038 | Rep. Henbest addressed the Committee. She explained that this legislation will amend Section 56-1017, Idaho Code to provide for the adoption of rules and standards concerning criteria for the use of air medical services by certified EMS personnel at emergency scenes. She is concerned with a potential problem of the triage for life flight services. This bill will provide guidelines for EMS personnel when making the decision to call air medical services. She believes that this effort will be a potential cost savings measure. |
MOTION: | Rep. Martinez moved to send RS 14038 to Print. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
Chairman Sali yielded the gavel to Vice Chairman Block. | |
RS 14092 | Rep. Sali addressed the Committee explaining the purpose of this legislation is to delay the effective date for CHIP B and Access Card programs for two years. There is a projected savings of over $4 million for fiscal year 2005. He explained that due to the concern for the rising costs of Medicaid, he wanted to provide opportunity for the Committee to discuss and explore the benefits and drawbacks in the implementation of the CHIP B/Access Card program. The purpose of this legislation is to begin the discussion process. He explained that CHIP A will still move forward. |
MOTION: | Rep. McGeachin moved to send RS 14092 to Print. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
Vice Chairman Block yielded the gavel back to Chairman Sali. | |
ADJOURN: | There being no further business Chairman Sali adjourned the meeting at 4:35 P.M. |
DATE: | February 16, 2004 |
TIME: | Upon Adjournment of Afternoon Session |
PLACE: | Room 404 |
MEMBERS: | Chairman Sali, Vice Chairman Block, Representatives Eberle, Garrett, Kulczyk, McGeachin, Nielsen, Ring, Henbest, Martinez, Mitchell |
ABSENT/
EXCUSED: |
None |
GUESTS: | See attached sign-in sheet. |
Chairman Sali called the meeting to order at 3:55 P.M.
Chairman Sali asked the Committee to review the minutes of February |
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MOTION: | Rep. Nielsen moved to accept the minutes of February 12, 2004 as written. There was discussion on the motion. |
SUBSTITUTE MOTION: |
Rep. Henbest moved that the minutes reflect the unanimous consent by the Committee regarding taking further testimony on RS1345C1 or to continue with the next RS on the agenda due to the time factor. Chairman Sali explained that noting the unanimous consent request was Rep. Henbest withdrew the Substitute Motion. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE ORIGINAL MOTION CARRIED. Rep. Henbest voted Nay. |
Chairman Sali yielded the gavel to Vice Chairman Block. | |
HB 656 | Rep. Sali addressed the Committee regarding this bill. He explained that the purpose of this bill is to repeal licensing of pastoral counselors to eliminate licensed pastoral counselors from Idaho Code. He explained that there has only been one licensed pastoral counselor in the state of Idaho. Rayola Jacobsen, Occupational License Bureau, addressed the |
MOTION: | Rep. Kulczyk moved to send HB 656 to the Floor with a Do Pass recommendation. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. Rep. Sali will sponsor the bill. |
Vice Chairman Block yielded the gavel back to Chairman Sali. | |
HB 552 | Rayola Jacobsen addressed the Committee. She explained that this bill includes an amendment to authorize the Board to adopt rules requiring annual continuing education as a condition for the renewal of licenses. She also presented an amendment to strike all references to pastoral counselors. |
MOTION: | Rep. Henbest moved to send HB 552 to General Orders with amendment attached. Rep. Henbest will sponsor the bill. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
HB 626 | Michelle Glasgow, Director of Assisted Living Association of Idaho addressed the Committee by explaining that this bill is for the purpose of establishing the maximum staffing level requirements of a facility. She further explained that there are two approaches to determining the needs of residents, the assessment generated by the Uniform Assessment Instrument (UAI) and assessment of the resident’s needs made by Bureau of Facility Standards during a survey. These are sometimes in conflict with each other. The Bureau of Facility Standards determines if there is appropriate staffing and may choose to give the residence a deficiency for inadequate staffing that may have no correlation with the needs determined in the UAI. She further explained that Facility Standards determines appropriate staffing required and UAI determines a daily reimbursement rate by translating resident needs into hours required. There were questions and discussion from the Committee. Bill Sutherland, President of Idaho Assisted Living, commented that this |
MOTION: | Rep. Block moved to send HB 626 to General Orders with Committee amendments attached changing the language in line 13 by deleting the words “Existing admission agreements” and inserting the words “The most recent negotiated service agreement.” |
Jim Shadduck, Operations Director of Ashley Manor LLC, addressed the Committee with some of his concerns regarding this bill. He explained that there is no uniformity between Uniform Assessment Instrument (UAI) as used for Medicaid residents versus the assessment made for private pay residents. UAI assessments are only implemented on Medicaid clients. He asked the question: How can we set a staffing guideline that Mr. Shadduck continued by stating that the term “Negotiated” needs to . |
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SUBSTITUTE MOTION: |
Rep. Kulczyk moved to hold HB 626 to Time Certain, Friday, February 20. Committee discussion continued. One point of consideration was the idea of including private payers along with Medicaid payers when determining needs assessment. |
AMENDED SUBSTITUTE MOTION: |
Rep. Nielsen moved to send HB 626 to General Orders with Committee Amendments attached with further changes in the language. There was discussion on the motion. Rep. Nielsen withdrew the Amended Substitute Motion. Rep. Block withdrew the original Motion commenting that she thinks |
VOTE: | A VOTE WAS TAKEN ON THE MAIN MOTION AND WAS CARRIED BY A VOICE VOTE. |
HB 628 | Michelle Glasgow addressed the Committee. She explained that the purpose of this bill is to allow for the use of electronic signatures in documentation management systems in assisted living residences. Electronic signatures may be used for both documentation maintenance, and where applicable, for transfer of Welfare for documentation verification and the documentation verification portion of the survey process. She explained some of the advantages of using electronic signatures: (1) Reduced time in submitting and returning documents needing signatures and/or approval; (2) More document storage capability in electronic storage i.e. paperless documentation; (3) Better security and authenticity than with hand\written signatures as time, date and place is always recorded in addition to the signature; (4) Easier documentation retrieval in an electronic data management system; (5) Option to use electronic documentation in the oversight process. Bill Sutherland addressed the Committee in support of this legislation. The issue of the secured password was considered by the Committee. |
MOTION: | Rep. Nielsen moved to send HB 628 to the Floor with a Do Pass. There was discussion on the motion. David Rogers, Medicaid Division of Department of Health and Welfare, |
SUBSTITUTE MOTION: |
Rep. Henbest moved to send HB 628 to General Orders with Committee amendments attached with the change made on line 13 to strike the word “shall” and replace it with the word “may“. There was discussion on the motion. Some of the following points considered were: the potential cost to the |
MOTION: | Rep. Martinez called for the question. |
VOTE: | ON A ROLL CALL VOTE THE MOTION TO CALL FOR THE QUESTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. |
VOTE: | ON A ROLL CALL VOTE THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO SEND
HB 628 TO GENERAL ORDERS PASSED. Voting Nay – Representatives Kulczyk, McGeachin, Nielsen Voting Aye – Representatives Block, Eberle, Garrett, Ring, Henbest, Martinez, Mitchell |
Rep. Sali announced his presentation before JFAC would be Thursday, February 19 at 11:00 A.M. He stated that Committee discussion on the presentation would be held at the next meeting on February 18. |
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ADJOURN: | There being no further business, Chairman Sali adjourned the meeting at 5:50 P.M. |
DATE: | February 16, 2004 |
TIME: | Upon Adjournment of Full Committee |
PLACE: | Room 404 |
MEMBERS: | Chairman Block, Representatives Kulczyk, McGeachin, Nielsen, Henbest |
ABSENT/
EXCUSED: |
None |
GUESTS: | See attached sign-in sheet. |
Chairman Block called the meeting to order at 6:00 P.M. | |
MOTION: | Rep. Nielsen moved to approve the minutes of February 10, 2004. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
Dockets
16-0209-0302 16-0209-0301 |
Dick Schultz, Health Division, Department of Health and Welfare addressed the Committee in support of the rules. He referred the Committee to Subsection 001.04.f in Docket 16-0219-0302 explaining the response he had received from Dennis Stevenson regarding the typographical error: The word “or” in this subsection should be “on” as it is written in Idaho Code. Mr. Stevenson recommended two options for correcting the error. In either case a rule making will have to be done to correct the typo. (See attachment.) Mike Kane, Attorney representing Idaho Sheriff’s Association, spoke in |
Al Lance, attorney, addressed the Committee in opposition of the rule. He explained he was before the Committee as a volunteer representing the American Legion, VA, Elks, VFW, Shiners, etc. He explained that with the passage of this rule, these service clubs run the risk of curtailing many of the events that are held throughout the year involving food service. Committee questions followed. Lisa Wright, Corporate Manager for Jack in the Box restaurants, Michelle Glasgow, Director Assisted Living Facilities, addressed the Eric Mundell, surveyor for the Department of Health and Welfare, Some of the considerations were: why some entities are exempt and Dick Schultz yielded to a question explaining the report ability of food Dick Schultz yielded to a question explaining that the District Health Dick Schultz yielded to a question by explaining the following three Kathy Holley, Director Central District Health Department, yielded to a Tom Turco, Director Environmental Health-Central District Health (See attachment for further detail of testimony.) Dick Schultz yielded to a question by Chairman Block by agreeing to |
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Chairman Block announced the next meeting would be on February 18, 2004 upon adjournment of the full Committee. |
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ADJOURN: | There being no further business, Chairman Block adjourned the meeting at 7:35 P.M. |
DATE: | February 18, 2004 |
TIME: | 1:30 P.M. |
PLACE: | Room 404 |
MEMBERS: | Chairman Sali, Vice Chairman Block, Representatives Eberle, Garrett, Kulczyk, McGeachin, Nielsen, Ring, Henbest, Martinez, Mitchell |
ABSENT/
EXCUSED: |
None |
GUESTS: | See attached sign-in sheet. |
Chairman Sali called the meeting to order at 1:35 P.M. | |
Chairman Sali brought before the Committee HB 628 and HB 626, already heard by the Committee February 16, 2004 and asked for their consideration. Chairman Sali asked if the Committee would like to reconsider the action |
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MOTION: | HB 628 – Rep. Garrett moved to reconsider action taken on HB 628. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED.
At the request of Chairman Sali HB 628 will be returned to the |
Chairman Sali presented the Committee with HB 626 explaining that the action taken on the bill had been to hold to a time certain on Friday, February 18. The sponsor has requested additional time to complete work on proposed amendments. |
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MOTION: | HB 626 – Rep. Eberle moved to postpone further action on HB 626 until Tuesday, February 24, 2004. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
HB 657 | Chairman Sali explained that there were several people who wanted to testify on HB 657 but who could not be available today. He asked that the bill be taken off of the agenda for consideration at a later date. The Committee agreed. |
Chairman Sali welcomed the new page, Cassie Beck who is from Blackfoot, Idaho. Ms. Beck’s predecessor, Heather Callen had planned to stay until the end of the week, but had to leave early for school. |
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Docket No. 16-0309-0308 |
Mond Warren, Bureau Chief, Audits and Investigations, Department of Health and Welfare, addressed the Committee. He explained that these rules govern the Department’s activities relating to investigation of Medicaid fraud and abuse and have been amended to help the Department protect the program funds and clients from fraud and abuse. He explained the following changes/amendments to clarify and restructure Mr. Warren stated that after publication, the Department did not receive |
CON | Jeff Hough, representing Cooperative Action, spoke in opposition of the bill. He thanked the Department for their efforts and decision to remove Sections 204 and 210. He explained the two areas he takes issue with: HIPPA Compliance and Due Process. Cooperative Action believes that the concerns over privacy and the lack of due process for the provider is enough to warrant the rejection of the temporary rule. (Copy of testimony is attached). Committee discussion followed. Mr. Warren yielded to the various concerns raised by the Committee Mr. Warren yielded to questions regarding the intent and the potentially Rep. Sali asked Mr. Warren if he would provide a letter verifying that the Kathleen Allyn, Medicaid, Health and Welfare Department answered a Jeff Hough stated his concerns regarding suspension of payments for Mr. Warren yielded to Chairman Sali by explaining that the intention of Chairman Sali stated to the Committee that the Senate has provided a By Unanimous Consent the report to the Speaker will reflect that the |
Docket No.
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Shawna Kittridge, Pharmacy Supervisor, Division of Medicaid, addressed the Committee. She explained that these rules will allow Medicaid to provide participants with the most effective drug at the right price through a variety of pharmacy management tools. Medicaid and pharmacy programs have implemented strategies including generic substitution requirements, prior authorization of drugs and coverage limitations such as limits on quantities per prescription and early refills. She further explained that these rule changes allow Medicaid to make decisions based on objective scientific information (evidence-based reviews) which provides clinical foundation and support for pharmacy management processes. (See attachment for further testimony). |
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Bill Roden, representing PhRMA, spoke in opposition of this bill. One of his concerns is allowing the state to make the decisions for provisions for these patients, not the doctor. He is also concerned with the underlying cost to the state and urges the Committee and others to consider the cost. He asked the question: “Are we saving money or just avoiding cost.” |
PRO | JoAn Condie, CEO, Idaho State Pharmacy Association, addressed the Committee. She asked that the Committee accept this rule, making it a permanent rule. She shared written testimonies in support of the rule (see attachments). |
PRO | Clyde Daily, Director AARP, addressed the Committee in support of this bill and has advocated for quality medical care. He explained that prescription drugs are an integral factor in the effective treatment and prevention of disease and there is a wide range of drugs available which purport to treat the same condition. He believes that the scientific approach identifies the most effective drugs in today’s health care market |
PRO | Jim Alexander, pharmacy owner in Mountain Home and member of Blue Cross Pharmacy and Therapeutics Committee, addressed the Committee in support of the rule. He is a member of the Utilization Review Committee for the Department. He explained that if they have questions regarding specific medications that cannot be addressed by their review committee, they will look to other sources for necessary answers. He answered a question from the Committee by stating that if a patient is resistant to a particular medication, he/she may receive a waiver. Ms. Kittridge yielded to a question by explaining that technology is in By Unanimous Consent, the report to the Speaker will reflect that the |
HJM 17
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Rep. McGeachin addressed the Committee and asked the permission of the Chair to give presentation on both HJM 17 and HB 658. She referred to the handout (see attached) given to the Committee noting findings from the Congressional Budget Office in the year 2000 of total expenditures for long term care at $123 billion, $5 billion for private insurance carriers; for the year 2020 total expenditures estimated at $207 billion and private insurance $36 billion. The concept is an effort to contain the rising cost to the state for long term care which is one of the highest expenditures in our state Medicaid budget. This program advances the concept that private payers pay first and government pays last. She explained that long term care partnerships are not intended for the wealthy, but for people with $100,000 to $500,000 in assets. She further explained that every partnership policy sold is a potential savings of more than $50,000 per year to taxpayers. She noted page No. 7 of the handout the number of approximately 140,000 policies in force in four states and out of that number, only about 70 people have qualified for Medicaid. Rep. McGeachin explained that Senator Craig’s bill to amend the portion Rep. McGeachin yielded to a question by explaining that the policies do |
MOTION: | Rep. Eberly moved to send HJM 17 to the Floor with a Do Pass recommendation. |
SUBSTITUTE MOTION: |
Rep. Ring moved to send both HJM 17 and HB 658 to the Floor with a Do Pass recommendation. There was discussion on the Substitute Motion. |
Ms. Allyn yielded to questions from the Committee regarding the fiscal impact by explaining that there will be start up and ongoing costs to implement this program that will require additional state general fund dollars. The amount will depend on when the program is implemented and what existing resources can be used. Rep. Henbest recommended that the Statement of Purpose (SOP) be |
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PRO | April Howard, insurance agency owner, addressed the Committee. She expressed that this bill encourages people to take responsibility for saving the state from bankruptcy. |
PRO | Gordon Lawton, Financial Advisor who writes for Farm Bureau, encouraged this program to be available for the more affluent sector of society, for the purpose of preventing the Medicaid program to be taken advantage of. He also recommends the living death benefit be offered in the long term care program and offering this benefit to the wealthy. |
PRO | Pete Chesney, insurance agency owner, addressed the Committee. He explained that this bill would serve as an asset preservation tool that would provide an opportunity for the elderly to avoid selling their homes in order to pay for their long term care, which would allow them to leave an estate to their loved ones. |
PRO | Scott Levitt, insurance agent, addressed the Committee expressed that this program makes private insurance the payer of first resort and Medicaid the payer of last resort. He stated that this program will give dignity to individuals as it allows choice in facilities. |
PRO | Clyde Dailey, addressed the Committee in support of this bill explaining that this program has been working in other states. He mentioned the factor of the “baby boomer” crisis is fast approaching and the thought that we need to do all we can to alleviate the eventual cost to the state. |
Rep. Ring withdrew the Substitute Motion. | |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MAIN MOTION TO SEND HJM 17 TO THE FLOOR WITH A DO PASS RECOMMENDATION PASSED. |
MOTION: | Rep. Ring moved to send HB 658 to the Floor with a Do Pass recommendation. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. Rep. Kulczyk voted Nay. |
Chairman Sali put the Committee at ease at 5:30 P.M.
Chairman Sali called the meeting to order at 5:40 P.M. |
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HB 659 | Rep. Henbest addressed the Committee. She explained that she is a nurse practitioner and stated that this legislation will not change the financial relationship with her employer or the physicians she works with. Present time education standard has evolved over the past thirty years to the standard requirement of a post graduate masters degree. An advisory committee to the board of nursing is made up of physicians, Rep. Henbest explained that she has met with Idaho Medical Association |
MOTION: | Rep. Eberle moved to send HB 659 to General Orders with Committee amendments attached. |
CON | James Scheel, M.D., Idaho Medical Association, addressed the Committee. He explained that he is concerned with the education standard for nurse practitioners as compared to physicians and how this would impact quality of care. Nurse practitioner requirements – 4 years college, 2 additional years; physicians requirements – 4 years college, 4 years medical school, 3 to 7 years residency. He also explained that within the scope of collaboration language in the bill, the term “health care professionals” is not clearly defined. |
PRO | Sandra Evans, Director, Idaho Board of Nursing, addressed the Committee in support of the bill explaining that since the 1970’s the definition of advanced practice nursing and the regulation of the nearly 700 licenses advanced practice nurses in our state has been evolving to best meet the needs of Idaho’s citizens. She further explained that these advanced practice registered nurses are regulated by the Board of Nursing and provide primary health care services throughout Idaho in group and independent practices and in both large and small communities, but always in concert with other health care providers, including physicians, pharmacists, social workers, dietitians, physical therapists and others. (See attachment for further detail of testimony) |
SUBSTITUTE MOTION: |
Rep. Nielsen moved to hold HB 659 in Committee to a Time Certain subject to the discretion of the Chair. |
Larry Benton, Benton and Associates, addressed the Committee by explaining that his representation originally opposed the bill, however, now is in support if the proposed amendments are made as it applies to the nurse anesthetist portion. |
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PRO | Debra Casdorf, Nurse Practioner, Emmett, explained that she has a sole practice and already collaborates with many physicians. She expressed that her patients trust her in making appropriate decisions and seeking advice for their care. |
PRO | Lynn Kulahara, Nurse Practioner, Idaho City, explained that she has a solo practice in Idaho City and collaborates with many physicians, chiropractors, social workers. |
PRO | Dave Foss, Nurse Practitioner, Parma, explained that he has a successful practice and collaborates regularly with many physicians and he operates within the scope of the knowledge and education of nurse practitioners. Rep. Nielsen withdrew the Substitute Motion. Myrna Olson, Idaho Nurses Association, yielded to a question by stating |
SUBSTITUTE MOTION: |
Rep. Block moved to hold HB 659 until a Time Certain subject to the call of the Chair. She commented that she would like the parties involved to work together to arrive at a clear and agreeable definition of the language of collaboration and supervision. |
SUBSTITUTE MOTION: |
ON A VOICE VOTE THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO HOLD HB 659 UNTIL A TIME CERTAIN FAILED. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MAIN MOTION TO SEND HB 659 TO GENERAL ORDERS WITH COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS ATTACHED PASSED. |
Chairman Sali announced to the Committee that his presentation to JFAC would be tomorrow, February 19 at 10:00 A.M. He listed the main points he would cover: (1) The factors causing increases in health care costs as discussed at the Committee’s first meeting this session. (2) The coming crisis when Baby Boomers reach Nursing Home age, (3) The need to set out savings which the Department proposes will arise from their various initiatives, (4) The need to put limitations on the CHIP B and ACCESS Card programs, (5) The need to ensure that all bills which will cause a Medicaid expansion have gone through the germane Committee prior to being funded by an appropriation bill, and (6) The factors that drive Medicaid increases. Rep. Garrett also provided a letter to Chairman Sali regarding the need to |
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ADJOURN: | There being no further business Chairman Sali adjourned the meeting at 6:35 P.M. |
DATE: | February 19, 2004 |
TIME: | 8:00 A.M. |
PLACE: | Room 408 |
MEMBERS: | Chairman Block, Representatives Kulczyk, McGeachin, Nielsen, Henbest |
ABSENT/
EXCUSED: |
None |
GUESTS: | See attached sign-in sheet. |
Chairman Block called the meeting to order at 8:15 A.M. | |
The Subcommittee members presented their findings from their research of their designated areas to Chairman Block and submitted copies of their reports. |
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Chairman Block reminded the Committee that the intent of this meeting is to explore the impact on the food safety rules from the research reported on by the Subcommittee members. She presented the Committee with several options to consider during the process of deciding the action to take on the rules.
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Dick Schultz, Administrator, Department of Health and Welfare addressed the Committee. He announced that his recommendation to the Committee is to reject the entire set of rules. This action will provide the Department and those involved to be working on changes that will be better for all concerned. Committee discussion followed. |
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By Unanimous Consent the recommendation of the Subcommittee to the full Committee will be to reject Docket 16-0219-0301 and Docket 16-0219-0302. |
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ADJOURN: | There being no further business, Chairman Block adjourned the meeting at 8:45 A. M. |
DATE: | February 20, 2004 |
TIME: | 1:30 P.M. |
PLACE: | Room 404 |
MEMBERS: | Chairman Sali, Vice Chairman Block, Representatives Eberle, Garrett, Kulczyk, McGeachin, Nielsen, Ring, Henbest, Martinez, Mitchell |
ABSENT/
EXCUSED: |
Chairman Sali |
GUESTS: | See attached list. |
Vice Chairman Block called the meeting to order at 1:35 P.M.
The Vice Chairman announced that the minutes of February 18 had not |
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MOTION: | Rep. Ring moved to approve the minutes of February 16, 2004 as written. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
Rep. Ring asked permission of the Chair to move the Medicaid presentation by David Rogers to the end of the agenda to allow enough time for the bills to be heard since some may have to leave early. The Committee and Mr. Rogers agreed. |
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Docket No.
16-0309-0311 |
Leslie Clement, Medicaid Division, Department of Health and Welfare addressed the Committee explaining that when the docket was first presented to the Committee, the Committee was informed that department staff met with stakeholders to review some areas of concern and that the department had committed to having monthly meetings with an established work group to resolve issues. She explained that there was a need to reflect changes in provider and department responsibilities as a result of staff reductions in the Regional Mental Health Authority; and there was a need to clarify service expectations and provide service definitions in response to health and safety concerns, particularly for services provided in Partial Care settings. Ms. Clement further explained that the rule changes relate to two distinct Ms. Clement explained that the changes to the mental health clinic rules Ms. Clement explained that since her previous testimony before this |
Gregory Dickerson, Mental Health Providers Association and member of the work group working on these rules, addressed the Committee explaining that the association agrees with the recommendation to extend these rules with the understanding that both providers and the Department are going to meet and develop amendments to meet the needs with all of the stakeholders participating in this process. He commended the Department for being sensitive to the providers’ needs and the expectations contained in these rules. He explained that if these assessment and planning functions can be administratively combined, then cost savings may be generated without denying anyone’s care. Laura Scurri, Vice President, Mental Health Provider’s Association Vice Chairman Block noted a letter from April Crandall, President of By Unanimous Consent, the report to the Speaker will reflect that the |
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HB 697 | Rep. Henbest addressed the Committee. She explained that this legislation will provide for the adoption of rules and standards concerning criteria for the use of air medical services by certified EMS personnel at emergency scenes. She explained that this bill opens the door to negotiated rule making and looking at improving the system in place today. She stated that it is her assurance that the Department will enter into a negotiated rule making encompassing the entire geography of the state of Idaho that would not be limited to the urban centers and would go beyond the current state EMS advisory committee and include everyone who feels that they need to have a place at the table. She stated that she will transmit this in writing to the Bureau of EMS. Michael McGrane, RN, MSN, Director of Air St. Luke’s Hospital Jim Alter, Department of Health and Welfare, EMS Bureau, addressed Roy Eiguren, attorney representing St. Al’s Hospital Regional Medical explained that the director of Life Flight has indicated at times there is |
MOTION: | Rep. Mitchell moved to send HB 697 to the Floor with a Do Pass recommendation. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
HB 694 | Sandra Evans, Executive Director, Idaho State Board of Nursing, addressed the Committee. She explained that this bill amends the Idaho Nursing Practice Act to require applicants for initial nurse licensure and for reinstatement of licensure to submit to criminal background checks. She explained that the Board grants initial licensure to approximately 1500 nurses a year with an additional 200-300 nurses seeking reinstatement of lapsed licenses each year. Both a felony and/or misdemeanor conviction should be carefully scrutinized in making the determination to grant licenses to nurse candidates. Currently, the Board relies on the honesty and integrity of applicants to be truthful. (See attached testimony). Committee questions and discussion followed. Ms. Evans yielded to the following concerns: |
MOTION: | Rep. Mitchell moved to send HB 694 to the Floor with a Do Pass recommendation. He commented he believes that Idaho needs to take the steps necessary to safeguard the public, especially due to mobility of nurses among states and shortage of nurses in Idaho. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
Vice Chairman Block presented to the Committee the official letter from Paul Leary, Program Manager, Department of Health and Welfare, previously requested by Rep. Sali at the February 6 meeting confirming that the date the temporary rule will take effect will be upon Sine Die of this current legislation. Vice Chairman Block asked for Unanimous Consent to attach this letter to today’s minutes as well as the minutes of February 6. There was no objection. (The letter is attached.) |
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Presentation: | David Rogers, Administrator, Medicaid Division, Department of Health and Welfare gave the Committee an overview of Medicaid Cost Containment. He explained that growth in state health care costs, including Medicaid expenditures has outpaced increases in available revenue. Medicaid expenditures are reflective of general health care trends, including medical inflations. He explained that premiums for private employer-sponsored health insurance have experienced double digit increases over the last few years. Medicaid is different in relation to caseload increases. In bad economic times, Medicaid caseloads tend to rise, increasing demand in times when state revenues are often declining. Idaho is not alone in facing the challenge of rising Medicaid costs; 32 states are expecting to experience a shortfall in their Medicaid budgets in FY 2004. Mr. Rogers explained that the state is acting to restrain Medicaid |
ADJOURN: | There being no further business, Vice Chairman Block adjourned the meeting at 3:20 P.M. |
DATE: | February 24, 2004 |
TIME: | Upon Adjournment from Afternoon Session |
PLACE: | Room 404 |
MEMBERS: | Chairman Sali, Vice Chairman Block, Representatives Eberle, Garrett, Kulczyk, McGeachin, Nielsen, Ring, Henbest, Martinez, Mitchell |
ABSENT/
EXCUSED: |
Rep. Eberle |
GUESTS: | See attached sign-in sheet |
Chairman Sali called the meeting to order at 3:00 P.M. He asked the Committee to review the minutes of February 18 and 20, 2004. |
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MOTION: | Rep. Henbest moved to approve the minutes of February 20, 2004 as written. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
MOTION: | Rep. Martinez moved to approve the minutes of February 18, 2004 as written. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
Vice Chairman Block addressed the Committee regarding the Block Subcommittee report on the food rules. She explained that after careful consideration and at the request of the Health and Welfare Department the Subcommittee was unanimous in recommending to the full Committee that both Rule Dockets 16-0219-0301 and 16-0219-0302 be rejected. The Vice Chair commended the Subcommittee members for their very conscientious effort and dedication to obtaining their research and submitting excellent presentations and written reports of their findings. She also thanked the secretaries, Jennifer O’Kief and Elfreda Higgins, for their assistance with the Subcommittee. |
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Chairman Sali stated that a motion was in order to accept the report of the Block Subcommittee that was in the member’s folders. (See attached report/letter). |
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MOTION: | Rep. Nielsen moved to accept the report of the Block Subcommittee. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
The Chair asked for unanimous consent that the report to the Speaker will be the acceptance of the Subcommittee’s recommendation to the full Committee and that the action of the full Committee would be to reject Docket 16-0219-0301 and Docket 16-0219-0302. There was no objection. |
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RS 14184 | Chairman Sali introduced this concurrent resolution and explained that the Committee has been given the status of a privileged committee for the purpose of introducing RS 14184 (See attached letter of permission from the Speaker). The purpose of this RS is to implement the recommendation of the Subcommittee to reject the food safety rules. |
MOTION: | Rep. Henbest moved to send RS 14184 out for printing and that it be sent to the second reading calendar. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
HB 626 | Chairman Sali stated that HB 626 would be pulled at the request of the sponsor. |
Dockets:
16-0313-0301 16-0309-0307 |
David Rogers, Administrator, Division of Medicaid, Department of Health and Welfare addressed the Committee explaining that both Dockets 16-0313-0301 and 16-0309-0307 had been held in Committee for further |
By Unanimous Consent, the report to the Speaker will reflect that the Committee found no basis upon which to reject Docket No. 16-0313-0301 and Docket 16-0309-0307. |
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HB 657 | Jim Jones, Attorney, representing himself and Jon and Brenda Field, addressed the Committee. He explained that the Fields’ son Caleb died as a result of medication that was tampered with by a nurse who was later convicted of two felonies and is serving time in prison. He further explained that this bill amends Idaho Code to include licensed professional nurses in the category of providers that are required to furnish information such as certain background information, including criminal convictions, disciplinary action and malpractice. He further explained that this legislation imposes reporting requirements of providers who have been disciplined by an employer or regulatory board or been convicted for abuse of controlled substances. This reporting gives the public knowledge of providers who have had a history of substance abuse. |
CON | Sandra Evans, Executive Director, Idaho State Board of Nursing, addressed the Committee. She stated that this bill will likely result in unnecessarily encumbering IDACARE (data system containing information on physicians and nurses), which is a consumer information system that currently works well. She explained that this bill has been presented on the premise of protecting consumers from tragic circumstances like that of Caleb Field by making public, information related to mishandling and abuse of controlled substances. She further explained that regulatory boards have discovered that the best way to protect the public against the risk posed by health providers who suffer from the disease of addiction, is through a structured system of early detection and intervention, appropriate treatment, and long-term monitoring of practice and behavior. Committee discussion and questions followed. |
CON | Nancy Kerr, Executive Director of the Idaho Board of Medicine, addressed the Committee. She explained that this bill discourages physicians from reporting concerns and voluntary participation in the Physician Recovery Program. Currently the largest number of reports of impaired or at risk providers to the Board is from colleagues or concerned relatives and friends. Voluntary contracts require physicians to notify key individuals in their hospital and practice locations by submitting a copy of the board stipulation and provide confirmation to the Board that this was accomplished. She stated that hospitals are required to report adverse professional actions to the Board of Medicine as per the peer review legislation passed by the legislature last year and this legislation appears to be in opposition to the intent of Peer Assistance legislation. Ms. Kerr stated that the public can view the Board of Medicine web site and print the documents associated with board actions taken regarding any licensee. She expressed that a physician in a monitored recovery program is a safer provider than the one that is attempting to hide or disguise an addiction problem. Committee discussion and questions followed. |
PRO | Brenda Field, mother of Caleb Field, addressed the Committee. She explained that she feels obligated to honor her son by not letting a tragic situation like this happen again. She urged the Committee to protect the public by passing this bill. |
CON | Steve Millard, Idaho Hospital Association addressed the Committee. One of his concerns is the use of the word “mishandling”. He stated that in a hospital environment there are thousand of drugs handled by employees each day. A vial may be dropped on floor or an incorrect dose given to a patient which might both be deemed mishandling. He further stated that the word could either mean incidental or accidental, not necessarily intentional. Another concern is that nursing homes, school nurses, corporate nurses are not covered by this proposed law. He expressed how difficult it is to receive accurate references on employees from former employers and that they are almost impossible to get for fear of law suit. Mr. Millard suggested that the Committee look at developing a system that would guarantee valid and sufficient reference checks. He stated that this bill as it is currently drafted does not accomplish much. There were questions from the Committee. |
CON | Roy Eiguren, attorney, representing St. Alphonsus Hospital, addressed the Committee. He stated that St. Alphonsus is willing to work with all interested parties in developing a balanced bill that responds to the concerns expressed in this legislation. He explained that he is concerned that this legislation conflicts with other laws impacting employment situations of individuals, specifically the Federal American with Disabilities Act, where actions taken within the scope of this legislation could be in violation of federal law. He further explained the liability issue is a factor, as well, in the event an individual is hired with a history of drug abuse problems and that history/report is overlooked. |
CON | Teresa Molitor, lobbyist with the Idaho Association of Commerce and Industry, addressed the Committee. She explained that this bill is contrary to the original intent of the Freedom of Information Act. She further explained that the result of this legislation may place a burden on employers to have to report a disciplinary action within thirty days. |
CON | Victoria Paulson, lobbyist with the Idaho Medical Association, addressed the Committee. She invited those interested parties the opportunity to sit down at the table for discussion and resolution of these most critical issues. |
Mr. Jones addressed the Committee by explaining that a collegial group did meet last year but with no success. He further explained that the participation and cooperation was not there and nothing was accomplished. |
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MOTION: | Rep. Kulczyk moved to send HB 657 to the Floor without recommendation. |
SUBSTITUTE MOTION: |
Rep. Nielsen moved to hold HB 657 to a Time Certain subject to the call of the Chair. There was discussion on the motion. |
VOTE: | ON A ROLL CALL VOTE, THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO HOLD
HB 657 IN COMMITTEE TO A TIME CERTAIN PASSED. Voting Nay – Representatives Block, Kulczyk Voting Aye – Representatives Garrett, Ring, McGeachin, Nielsen, Henbest, Martinez, Mitchell |
The Chairman put the Committee at ease at 5:05 P.M.
The Chairman called the meeting to order at 5:15 P.M. |
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HB 696 | Rep. Henbest addressed the Committee. She explained that this bill directs the Department to apply for a waiver from the Center for Medicare and Medicaid to conduct a pilot project to determine the effectiveness of, and projected cost savings which may result from providing reimbursement for weight control therapies in the state medicaid drug program. She further explained that this is a huge health care problem and there are increasingly more people with diabetes and heart disease resulting from obesity, many of whom end up becoming a financial burden on the state. |
PRO | Mary MacConnell, American Heart Association Advocacy Director addressed the Committee. She explained that there is an “explosion” of obesity in this country and being overweight is one of the number one factors causing heart disease. |
Kathleen Allyn, Medicaid Division, Department of Health and Welfare yielded to a question by stating that this project would not require hiring two additional staff, but would require the same amount of work that would be required of two full-time employees. She further explained that possibly employees may be pulled from other agencies. She also stated that there may be grants for this project available. Some of the considerations from the Committee were the time-line of this |
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MOTION: | Rep. Garrett moved to send HB 696 to the Floor with a recommendation that the Department and Rep. Henbest pursue providing regular progress reports as the project moves forward. There was discussion on the motion. |
SUBSTITUTE MOTION: |
Rep. Kulczyk moved to send HB 696 to General Orders with Committee amendments attached. There was discussion on the motion. |
AMENDED SUBSTITUTE MOTION: |
Rep. Henbest moved to send HB 696 to General Orders with Committee amendments attached to include: On line 18 after “gram” insert “, with the following limitations: (1) Participation in the pilot program shall be limited to 100 clients; (2) The length of the pilot program shall be limited to three (3) years; (3) Participation shall be limited to clients with a Body Mass Index over (4) The Department shall report annually to the Senate and House |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE AMENDED SUBSTITUTE MOTION CARRIED. |
HB 628 | Michelle Glasgow, Director of Idaho Assisted Living Association, addressed the Committee explaining this bill is before the Committee again because the association believes it is important to rescind the amendment that changed the word “shall” to “may” on line 13. The association proposes the following amendment that should narrow the scope of the bill and eliminate any need for additional funding to the Department (see attached amendment). She explained that the purpose of this bill is to allow for the use of electronic signatures in documentation management systems in assisted living residences which would allow for quicker response to resident needs, in turn resulting in more person centered care. She further explained that facilities require signatures on an immense amount of data, both current and archived. She stated that a paper signature is no safer nor more secure than an electronic signature. She further stated that the healthcare system needs to be more efficient and can be if present technology would be utilized. The Committee was given a handout listing documentation currently requiring signatures and advantages and safeguards with electronic signatures (see attached handouts). |
CON | David Rogers, Administrator, Medicaid Division, Department of Health and Welfare, addressed the Committee. He stated that he believes that the amendments offered are too broad. He explained that he could not estimate the cost because the impact of the cost depends on the breadth and type of documentation received and the scope of appropriate validation and certification. |
PRO | Bill Sutherland, President, Idaho Assisted Living Association, addressed the Committee explaining that there are safeguards already in place and there will be no additional cost incurred to the Department. The cost of $150 for a certificate that allows for the security process would already be in place. This cost is incurred by the facility for using the program which is internet based. He further explained that this procedure is more efficient and would save up to, in some cases, two weeks or more in lag time. |
Chairman Sali was alerted by Rep. Martinez that there was not a quorum present. |
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ADJOURN: | Chairman Sali adjourned the meeting at 6:50 P.M. explaining that the Committee would again take up HB 628 at the next meeting, Thursday, February 26. |
DATE: | February 26, 2004 |
TIME: | Upon Adjournment of Afternoon Session |
PLACE: | Room 404 |
MEMBERS: | Chairman Sali, Vice Chairman Block, Representatives Eberle, Garrett, Kulczyk, McGeachin, Nielsen, Ring, Henbest, Martinez, Mitchell |
ABSENT/
EXCUSED: |
Rep. McGeachin |
Chairman Sali called the meeting to order at 2:15 P.M. | |
GUESTS: | See attached sheet |
HB 628 | Michelle Glasgow, Director of Assisted Living Association of Idaho, addressed the Committee. She explained that after discussions with the Department of Health and Welfare, the groups involved are going to implement a pilot project to allow the parties to come to the table and resolve their issues. She stated that the Department has committed to the project and is willing to begin immediately. She recommended that the bill be held in Committee. |
MOTION: | Rep. Kulczyk moved to hold HB 628 in Committee. David Rogers, Administrator for the Department yielded to a question by responding that he would draft a letter of intent regarding the Department’s commitment to work with the association on a proposed pilot project. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
Docket No.
16-0322-0301 HB 748 |
Chairman Sali explained that HB 748 is aligned with Docket 16-0322-0301. He further explained that individuals may testify on both the docket and the bill at the same time. Debbie Ransom, Bureau of Facility Services, Department of Health and |
CON | Mick Markuson, Idaho Board of Pharmacy, addressed the Committee. He stated that he is opposed to nurses being allowed to repackage and re-label medications for patients in licensed residential and assisted living facilities. He explained that the chance for error increases when repackaging and re-labeling occurs. He stated that he is concerned about the level of expertise that nurses have. He also stated that this rule is in conflict with federal regulations of the Food and Drug Administration and the Idaho Board of Pharmacy statute. He distributed handouts to the Committee from which he referenced (see attachments). |
PRO | Michelle Glasgow addressed the Committee. She explained that the purpose of HB 748 is to clarify statute and rule regarding filling Medi-sets or other unit dose delivery system from bulk medication containers or pill bottle. She further explained that as was previously discussed in front of this Committee earlier this year, VA and railroad employees may only take advantage of their prescription benefits if those medications are purchased in bulk containers/pill bottles. She explained that if an assisted living facility has VA or railroad and some insurance retirees, the facility must now apply for a waiver to be allowed to have care givers assist in medication delivery directly from those pill bottles. Presently the board of nursing and rule acknowledges that filling a medi-set comes under a nurses scope of practice. |
CON | Rick Holloway, President, Western Health Care, addressed the Committee. He explained that he is concerned with mistakes made among nurses and unlicenced care givers administering medications. |
PRO | Sherry Marshall, Licensed Practical Nurse, addressed the Committee. She demonstrated the actual steps involved with repackaging medication by filling a medi-set container with pills (candy was used for the purpose of the demonstration) and re-labeling the package. She responded to a question by stating that care givers in assisted living facilities “assist” with administering their medications as opposed to solely administering the medications to them. |
PRO | Duke Van Campen, Masters Degree Nurse, owner of seven assisted living facilities, addressed the Committee. He explained that filling medi-sets lies within the scope of practicing as a nurse, as well as does the responsibility of liability that might be incurred. He further explained that his staff is educated in the proper handling of medications and instructed through the delegation of a nurse. |
Debbie Ransom yielded to a question by stating that the initial reason for proposing this rule is because the method currently in practice is in violation of the Board of Pharmacy statute. |
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PRO | Jerry Mitchell, owner of four assisted living facilities, addressed the Committee. He expressed that allowing nurses to fill medi-sets, will be a tremendous cost savings to residents. He further expressed that dispensing medication directly from the pill bottle leaves more opportunity for error than does repackaging pills into blister packs/medi-sets. |
PRO | Jim Shaddock, Administrator, Ashley Manor, addressed the Committee. He explained that the issue is whether to administer medications directly from pill bottles or from medi-sets previously packaged by a nurse, the later method being more efficient and safer. |
PRO | Stan Turner, Administrator of an assisted living facility, addressed the Committee. He explained that he believes filling medi-sets is much safer and more reliable. He also stated that re-labeling involves making a photo copy of the original label on the bottle and applying that copied label directly to the container. |
PRO | Richard Christensen, attorney representing Idaho Assisted Living Association, addressed the Committee. He referenced from handouts distributed to the Committee, rules within the FDA regulations and Idaho Board of Pharmacy statute, and concluded that the current practice of filling and labeling medi-sets is not in conflict with either one. |
MOTION: | Rep. Nielsen moved to reject Section 428, Subsection 01 and 02 of Docket 16-0322-0301. There was discussion on the motion. |
ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION FAILED. | |
By Unanimous Consent the report to the Speaker will reflect that the Committee found no basis upon which to reject Docket No. 16-0322-0301. |
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MOTION: | Rep. Nielsen moved to send HB 748 to the Floor with a Do Pass recommendation. There was discussion on the motion. Vice Chairman Block asked for Unanimous Consent that the action on |
MOTION: | Rep. Nielsen moved to reject Section 428, Subsection 01 and 02 of Docket 16-0322-0301. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
MOTION: | Rep. Kulczyk moved to send HB 748 to the Floor with a Do Pass recommendation. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
HCR 49 | Kris Ellis, representing the Assisted Living Association of Idaho, addressed the Committee. She explained that this resolution proposes development of new rules, methods, and efficiencies to aid in assuring that facilities have appropriate and timely surveys without dramatic increases to the state general funds. Randy May addressed the Committee in support of the bill. He noted from |
MOTION: | Rep. Mitchell moved to send HCR 49 to the Floor with Do Pass recommendation. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
Chairman Sali brought SCR 122 before the Committee explaining that this concurrent resolution rejects Section 204 and 210 of Docket 16-0209-0308 relating to the medical assistance program. He further explained that adoption by both houses will prevent the agency rules from going into effect. |
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MOTION: |
Rep. Mitchell moved to send SCR 122 to the Floor with a Do Pass recommendation. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
Chairman Sali stated that due to the time factor, the sponsor of HB 731 has requested to move the bill to the next meeting, Tuesday, March 2. |
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Presenter: | Marilyn Sword, Executive Director of the Idaho Council on Developmental Disabilities, addressed the Committee. She distributed to the Committee the report on Self-Determination in Idaho, which is a project in collaboration with the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare. She noted several key points from the report, including a brief summary about the Self Determination Waiver Project, mention of the $500,000 grant they have received, and information regarding the development of the waiver (see attached report). Ms. Sword introduced Tygh Hales. Tygh Hales, a member of the task force, addressed the Committee. He Katherine Hansen, Executive Director of Community Partnerships of David Rogers, Administrator, Department of Health and Welfare, |
ADJOURN: | There being no other business, the meeting was adjourned at 5:30 P.M. |
DATE: | March 2, 2004 |
TIME: | 1:30 P.M. or Upon Adjournment |
PLACE: | Room 404 |
MEMBERS: | Chairman Sali, Vice Chairman Block, Representatives Eberle, Garrett, Kulczyk, McGeachin, Nielsen, Ring, Henbest, Martinez, Mitchell |
ABSENT/
EXCUSED: |
None |
GUESTS: | See attached sign-in sheet. |
Chairman Sali called the meeting to order at 1:50 P.M. He asked the Committee to review the minutes of February 24 and 26, 2004. |
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MOTION: | Rep. Nielsen moved to approve the minutes of February 24, 2004 as written. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
MOTION: | Rep. Ring moved to approve the minutes of February 26, 2004 as written. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
Chairman Sali presented to the Committee with a letter from Mond Warren, Bureau Chief with the Department of Health and Welfare, requested by the Chairman at the February 18, 2004 meeting. The letter provides clarification of the types of documentation the provider is required to create and maintain. Chairman Sali asked for Unanimous Consent to attach this letter to today’s minutes as well as the minutes of February 18. There was no objection (see attached letter, dated February 24, 2004). |
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HB 731 | Rep. Naccarato addressed the Committee. He explained that this bill will provide for a division in EMS III grant funds based on annual call volume. Currently, agencies in urban areas are unable to qualify for funding because of population, service area, and budget. This amendment would provide equal access to funding for rural and urban emergency medical service providers. Dia Gainor, EMS Bureau Chief, Department of Health and Welfare, Karl Malott, representing Professional Fire Fighters of Idaho, addressed Mr. Malott explained that in 1999 the EMS Fund III was established by Concerns considered were: this legislation would put more of a burden on Scott Long, EMS Division Chief, Idaho Falls City County Ambulance, Mr. Long answered questions from the Committee by stating that the Some of the concerns from the Committee raised were: how the calls are Dia Gainor agreed with Chairman Sali’s question that this legislation |
MOTION: | Rep. Martinez moved to send HB 731 to the Floor with a Do Pass recommendation. |
SUBSTITUTE MOTION: |
Vice Chairman Block moved to send HB 731 to General Orders with Committee amendments attached which would be to change “50%” on line 20-21 to “25%” and to change “50%” to “75%” on line 22. |
AMENDED SUBSTITUTE MOTION: |
Rep. Nielsen moved to hold HB 731 in Committee. There was discussion on the motion. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE AMENDED SUBSTITUTE MOTION FAILED. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION FAILED. |
VOTE: | ON A ROLL CALL VOTE THE MAIN MOTION TO SEND HB 731 TO THE FLOOR WITH A DO PASS RECOMMENDATION PASSED. Voting Nay – Representatives Block, Kulczyk, McGeachin, Nielsen Voting Aye – Representatives Garrett, Eberle, Ring, Martinez, Mitchell |
HB 646 | Patrick Collins, Attorney, Hawley Troxell Ennis & Hawley, representing Idaho Health Facilities Authority, addressed the Committee in support of this bill. He explained that the Idaho Health Facilities Authority was created to lend money to, and issue bonds on behalf of, healthcare institutions serving Idaho for the purpose of promoting health and welfare for the people. He further explained that this bill amends the definition, “health institution,” to make it clear that hospitals operating health facilities in Idaho either directly, or indirectly through one or more corporate affiliates, are entitled to borrow money from or issue bonds through the Idaho Health Facilities Authority. |
MOTION: | Rep. Ring moved to send HB 646 to the Floor with a Do Pass recommendation. Committee discussion followed. Neil Moss, representing Idaho Health Facilities Authority, responded to a Mr. Collins answered a question/concern regarding giving loans to |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
HB 657 | Jim Jones, Attorney, representing Jon and Brenda Field, addressed the Committee explaining that the parties interested in House Bill 657 had met and negotiated amendments to the bill that are more detailed and that everyone is satisfied with. He explained that the amendments add a new Section 37-117A, Idaho Code, to provide reporting and disclosure requirements for certain health care providers who are terminated from employment for adulteration or misappropriation of controlled substances. He continued to explain that if an employer in good faith provides such information, he/she shall not be held civilly liable for the disclosure or for the consequences of providing the information. He also noted additional requirements for professional licensing boards and prospective employers of health care providers. Steve Millard, Idaho Hospital Association, yielded to a question by |
MOTION: | Rep. Block moved that the Committee request that the negotiated amendments be put into RS form and that the Committee send a request that the Ways and Means Committee print the RS and send it directly to the Second Reading Calendar. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
MOTION: | Rep. Kulczyk moved to hold HB 657 in Committee. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
SCR 120 | Chairman Sali brought SCR 120 before the Committee explaining that this concurrent resolution rejects Sections 346, 347, 348 and 349 of Docket 16-0301-0302 of the Department of Health and Welfare relating to eligibility for Medicaid for families and children/CHIP Program, but accepts Section 214 pertaining to verification of social security numbers. This bill was before the Committee February 4th. Chairman Sali explained that the issue is that if these sections are not rejected there will be about 200 children eliminated from the Chip Program because their household has seasonal income that exceeds the threshold amount, even though on a yearly basis the household income may not exceed that threshold amount. Chairman Sali yielded to a question by stating that there had been a |
MOTION: | Rep. Garrett moved to send SCR 120 to the Floor with a Do Pass recommendation. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. Rep. Kulczyk voted No. |
ADJOURN: | There being no further business Chairman Sali adjourned the meeting at 4:10 P.M. |
DATE: | March 4, 2004 |
TIME: | 1:30 P.M. or Upon Adjournment |
PLACE: | Room 404 |
MEMBERS: | Chairman Sali, Vice Chairman Block, Representatives Eberle, Garrett, Kulczyk, McGeachin, Nielsen, Ring, Henbest, Martinez, Mitchell |
ABSENT/
EXCUSED: |
None |
GUESTS: | See attached sign-in sheet. |
Chairman Sali called the meeting to order at 2.50 P.M.
Chairman Sali presented the Committee with two articles from the Chairman Sali brought to the attention of the Committee an issue Mr. Holloway stated that this memorial would provide nursing facilities Steve Millard, Idaho Hospital Association, yielded to a question by stating Chairman Sali asked for the Committee’s unanimous consent to have Chairman Sali addressed the Committee regarding the parliamentary |
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S 1318 | Senator J. Stanley Williams addressed the Committee regarding this legislation to remove certain requirements regarding Podiatrists. He explained that this legislation removes language in Idaho Code that requires patients admitted to an Idaho hospital, on the recommendation of a licensed podiatrist, to have their required history and physical performed by a licensed M.D. He further explained that podiatrists are trained, qualified, and licensed under Idaho Code to perform routine examination. Podiatrists basically receive the same courses of study and undergo the same amount of training in medical school that M.D.’s and D.O.’s do in the area of histories/physicals. Pro Tem Robert Geddes, addressed the Committee in support of this Bob Seehusen, CEO Idaho Medical Association addressed the Gary Millward, Podiatrist, addressed the Committee in support of this bill. Steve Millard, representing Idaho Hospital Association, addressed the Larry Benton, representing the Idaho Association of Podiatric Medicine, |
MOTION: | Rep. Ring moved to send S 1318 to the Floor with a Do Pass recommendation. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. Rep. Sali will sponsor the bill. |
S 1291 | Laura Rowen, Program Manager, Department of Health and Welfare, addressed the Committee. She explained that this bill would give the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare the authority to administer a J-1 Visa Waiver Program for Idaho and allow them to place up to thirty foreign-trained physicians in rural communities. These physicians must complete an American residency program and achieve a license to practice in Idaho. Physicians must agree to practice a minimum of three years, serve Medicaid and Medicare patients, and provide a sliding fee scale for their services. She stated that the physician will be monitored and will report to the Department. She explained that a qualifying facility submits a physician’s application who holds a J-1 Visa to the Department; if the application is accepted, the Department may then make recommendation to the U.S. Department of State for a waiver to be granted; the U.S. Department of State will notify the physician directly if a waiver is granted; the physician then must seek an H1-B Visa, or work permit for someone with non-immigration status. Ms. Rowen noted in the handout, distributed to the members, the areas of the state that are eligible to request primary care physicians under this proposed state administered program. (See attached handout). |
MOTION: | Rep. Kulczyk moved to send S 1291 to the Floor with a Do Pass recommendation. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. Rep. McGeachin and Rep. Ring will sponsor the bill. |
S 1320 | Steve Millard, president of the Idaho Hospital Association, addressed the Committee. He explained that the purpose of this bill is to add language that addresses Emergency Medical Services Personnel, including them within Idaho’s peer review statutes and thereby accommodating their participation. Currently, EMS personnel efforts to conduct peer review are severely curtailed because they are not covered by these statutes. This bill allows those “pre-hospital”, i.e., EMS personnel to be included for peer review under Idaho’s peer review statutes. |
MOTION: | Rep. Henbest moved to send S 1320 to the Floor with a Do Pass recommendation. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. Rep. Martinez will sponsor the bill. |
S 1299 | Rep. Charles Cuddy addressed the Committee. He explained that the purpose of this legislation is to clarify that the medical professional training defibrillator operator is released from all liability due to providing the necessary training and prescription to the operator. This legislation will give the training and prescribing professional the same lawful protection now granted to the operator. |
MOTION: | Rep. Martinez moved to send S 1299 to the Floor with a Do Pass recommendation. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
ADJOURN: | There being no further business, Chariman Sali adjourned the meeting. |
DATE: | March 10, 2004 |
TIME: | 1:30 P.M. or Upon Adjournment |
PLACE: | Gold Room |
MEMBERS: | Chairman Sali, Vice Chairman Block, Representatives Eberle, Garrett, Kulczyk, McGeachin, Nielsen, Ring, Henbest, Martinez, Mitchell |
ABSENT/
EXCUSED: |
None |
GUESTS: | See attached sign-in sheets. |
Chairman Sali called the meeting to order at 3:15 P.M. He asked the Committee to review the minutes of March 2 and March 4. |
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MOTION: | Rep. Kulczyk moved to approve the minutes of March 2 and March 4, 2004. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
Briefing | Michael Bogert, Counsel to the Governor, and Richard Schultz, Administrator, Department of Health and Welfare addressed the Committee regarding the work that has been done in the area of informed consent for women seeking abortions. Mr. Bogert explained that the intent of this briefing is to discuss what has been done to rewrite Idahos informed consent materials that must be provided to Idahoans by current law. He has been working together with the Department to provide concise informed consent materials. He expressed that they are continuing to work on these materials. He presented three draft booklets from the office of the Governor that had been previously distributed to the members, entitled “Fetal Development,” “Directory of Pregnancy and Child Health Services,” and “Abortion”. He stated that an ad hoc committee working through the Governors office deserved thanks for their work on the materials. Mr. Bogert introduced Mr. Schultz to address the booklets in more detail. Mr. Schultz explained that the booklets were a collaborative |
S 1283 | Senator Brent Hill addressed the Committee regarding this legislation which amends Chapter 55, Title 39, regulating smoking in public places. Senator Hill explained that this legislation is about health. He said, “This kind of regulation is not un-American, un-Republic, or un-Democratic.” He stated that second hand smoke causes disease and death and currently thousands of Idahoans are sick from heart or lung disease, asthma, and cystic fibrosis. They are unable to go into public places due to their intolerance to second hand smoke. He provided a hand out from the Coalition for a Healthy Idaho which compares current law to the changes provided by his bill and the affect on various public and nonpublic facilities. Senator Hill said currently, non-smokers have no protection in public places. He said he has reports from the United States Surgeon General, the National Academy of Sciences, and the American Medical Association which document the dangers of second hand smoke. He said studies show that exposure to second hand smoke causes thirty times the number of cases of lung cancer than all other air pollutants. He stated that his measure would protect children who cannot choose which public places they go to, and adults who work in smoke-filled rooms. He explained that his three sons worked as waiters during college and he said, “Nineteen-year-old kids think they are invincible and that they are never going to get sick and that they are never going to die.” He said the opposition will suggest that this legislation will hurt businesses. However, there have been studies done that show no negative effect, and show that there have been increased levels of morale and productivity. He stated that there are volumes on government regulations involving health and safety. He further stated that with freedom, comes responsibility, and business owners must accept the responsibility of providing a safe and healthy environment for customers and employees. He said in this bill they have tried to accommodate smokers where possible in order to avoid denying individual rights. (See attached handouts) |
CON | Russ Westerberg, representing the Stagecoach Inn restaurant, addressed the Committee. He stated that patrons/loyal clientele have been coming to the restaurant for the past forty-five years for its good food and service. He further stated that the business will suffer significant economic loss if this bill passes. He explained that on behalf of the Stagecoach, he does not take issue with the contention that second hand smoke causes disease to non-smokers or that the government, in the interest of public health, has no business attempting to prevent unintended or unknowing exposure to second hand smoke in private establishments. He explained that he is suggesting that there is a way to protect the rights of non-smokers exposed to second hand smoke while at the same time preserving the rights of private property owners, and consumer freedom of choice. Mr. Westerberg distributed a copy of a proposed amendment to the Committee which strikes language in Section 2 and adds language in Section 3. The new language deals with posting warning signs at public entrances to private establishments regarding the dangers of secondhand smoke. (See attached amendment). |
PRO | Phil Homer, representing the Idaho Association of School Administrators, addressed the Committee. He stated that children should be protected from second hand smoke that not only exacerbates childhood diseases but can cause death. He further stated, “this will be another arrow in our collective quivers that will help to provide a safer, healthier environment for our children and us.” |
CON | Kevin Settles, owner of Bardenay Restaurants and representing the Idaho Lodging and Restaurant Association, addressed the Committee. He stated there is a 90% failure rate in the restaurant business. He stated he will lose those customers who smoke to an establishment around the corner where food is not served. He further stated that this legislation is poorly drafted. |
PRO | Phil Behm, a private citizen who suffers from a rare genetic protein deficiency called Alpha-1 antirypsin deficiency addressed the Committee. He explained that this disease leaves his lungs unprotected against environmental pollutants. He stated that he doesnt believe that he should have to live in a bubble and he supports protection for those unable to tolerate harmful components from smoke. |
CON | Mike Fitzgerald, vice president of the Idaho Lodging and Beverage Association and owner of Table Rock Pub and Grill addressed the Committee. He stated that he believes this is a poorly written bill and has a problem with the way the bill addresses restaurants on pg 2 of the bill. He further stated that this bill will have a negative impact on his business. |
PRO | Dr. David McClusky, a surgeon in practice in Twin Falls, Idaho, addressed the Committee. He stated that tobacco is the number one cause of death and nothing is being done about it. He further stated that 21% of his patients smoke and account for 69% of health care costs. |
PRO | Liz Spear, a waitress in Boise, addressed the Committee. She stated that the corporation she works for supports the bill. She expressed the negative health factor for children who dine in restaurants where smoking is allowed. |
PRO | MaryAnn Rosenberry, a Jefferson Junior High School freshman, addressed the Committee. She explained that she does not like to have to be exposed to second hand smoke while dining in restaurants. She asked the question of the Committee: “What are you going to do to protect me and others like me?” |
CON | Chris Thomas, a Boise resident and writer of college text books involving restaurant equipment and ventilation systems, addressed the Committee. She stated that air conditioning and heating systems in most eating establishments are designed for temperature control, not for improving air quality. She further stated that the present technology in clean air filtration does not provide the level of efficiency by todays standards. |
PRO | Patrick Calley, Lieutenant from the Ada County Sheriffs Office addressed the Committee in support of the bill. |
PRO | Brad Dixon, representing the American Heart Association, addressed the Committee. He stated those he represents believes this bill will help reduce second hand smoke exposure and will help to reduce heart disease. Mr. Dixon referred to an experiment in Helena, Montana where reduction in environmental smoke resulted in a 60% reduction in heart attacks. He stated that the rights of private property owners are routinely restricted by government and the Committee should not be concerned by that effect of this bill. |
CON | John May, General Manager of the Owyhee Plaza Hotel in Boise, addressed the Committee. He stated that he believes this is an issue of choice for the restaurant and for the customer. He stated that he takes issue with the exemption for bars and bowling alleys, explaining that this creates an unfair playing field. He also is concerned with his employees who smoke. He stated that he currently has a designated smoking area for them, but this bill will force him to send his employees outside to smoke on the street or in front of the building. |
PRO | Dr. Doug Dammrose, a physician and Vice President of Blue Cross of Idaho, addressed the Committee. He stated that the Surgeon Generals report forty years ago identified the dangers of smoking. These hazards extend to non-smokers. He stated that he believes that this is a step in the right direction to cutting costs to health care. |
PRO | Lynn Kammermeyer, a Medical Geneticist with the March of Dimes, addressed the Committee. She stated that the mission of the March of Dimes is to improve the health of babies by preventing birth defects and infant mortality. Studies suggest second hand smoke during pregnancy doubles a non-smokers risk of having a low-birth weight baby. She explained that studies also suggest that children whose mothers were regularly exposed to second hand smoke during pregnancy may be at increased risk of learning and behavioral problems and babies who are exposed to smoke suffer from more respiratory illnesses and ear infections than other babies. |
PRO | Gail Baird, representing Coalition for a Healthy Idaho, addressed the Committee. She read from a letter addressed to the Committee by Shirley Greene, residing in Moscow, Idaho. Ms. Greene wrote that she was a smoker for thirty-five years and though it was very difficult to stop smoking, she now is smoke free. She further wrote that the same laws (referring the Clean Air Act originally passed in Idaho) that placed restrictions on where she could smoke helped her to choose not to smoke because there were fewer places to smoke. She stated in the letter that “it is about the rights of every ldahoan to breath clean air.” |
CON | Mary Thomas, co-owner of the Stagecoach Inn in Boise, addressed the Committee. She explained that she is very concerned about how this bill will effect their business which has been declining due to factors such as 911, the stock market decline, rising operating and labor costs. She stated that the restaurant is her livelihood as well as for many of the employees. She also takes issue with removing the designated smoking area for her employees. She is concerned for their safety if they must resort to stepping outside in the evening. She explained that this has been a family owned business for forty-five years that will be devastated if this bill passes. |
PRO | Sue Ann Reese, policy coordinator for the Coalition of a Healthy Idaho, addressed the Committee. She stated that, as non-smokers, the majority of the population is not being accommodated. She further stated that banning smoking on commercial airlines has not affected their business. |
CON | Terry Eastman, owner of Sargents Restaurant in Hayden Lake, addressed the Committee. He stated that this law is not written well and does not create a level playing field. He stated that his business will be negatively impacted by at least 30%. He further stated that he has already spent around $23,000 to improve the air quality system and it is working. He further stated that employment in his restaurant is a primary source of income for many of his employees. |
PRO | Ron Williams, an attorney, addressed the Committee. He stated that the bill will withstand scrutiny by the courts. |
PRO | Bob Seehusen, CEO of the Idaho Medical Association, addressed the Committee. He stated that the main concern of his association is the health of Idaho citizens. He further stated that he believes that this bill will help deal with some of the health care costs of our state. |
PRO | Brad Hoagland, representing the Coalition for a Healthy Idaho, addressed the Committee. He stated that there have been major concessions made to this bill. He referenced on pg. 1, line 37 in the bill language that allows the facility to become a bar with signage placed as outlined in the bill. |
PRO | Ferdinand Schlapper, Executive Director for BSU Health Services, addressed the Committee. He stated that these laws have a positive effect and the only negative effect is to the tobacco industries. He further sited several studies that have been done that indicate there is currently not an allowable level of air quality from smoking. He stated that there is already government regulation that involves levels of carbon monoxide, temperature of meat and water, fire and safety standards, sanitation standards, etc. |
CON | Rep. Roberts addressed the Committee. He takes issue with the exemption for bowling alleys and bars and the regulation of certain areas in private homes. He distributed to the members a proposal for an amendment that would strike language in the first four pages of the bill and asked the Committee to consider allowing local counties and cities to pass legislation more suitable to the needs of the populations in specific areas. (See attached amendment). |
CON | Pam Eaton, President of the Idaho Retailers Association, addressed the Committee. She explained three areas of concern: the policing/enforcing of this law, especially in mall areas; restriction of designated smoking areas for employees, forcing them to smoke outside in front of retail stores; and the negative impact on downtown development if restaurants are forced out of business. Ms. Eaton presented the Committee with a copy of a proposed amendment to the bill changing language regarding designated employee break room. (See attached amendment). |
CON | Steve Carper, beverage manager of the Stagecoach Inn, addressed the Committee. He stated that there has been a devastating, negative economic impact to business and employees of those businesses in many communities fro laws such as this. There has been a loss of jobs and income to many individuals as a result of similar |
CON | Gary Sullivan, employee of Quinns Restaurant in Boise, addressed the Committee. He stated that market conditions have caused him to make substantial improvements in the ventilation system in his restaurant which has improved air quality. Businesses are being responsible and are making improvements as technology becomes available to help them. |
Senator Hill stated that he had no further remarks because the case for the bill had already been made. |
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Upon concluding testimony, Chairman SaIi stated that the bill was before the Committee. |
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MOTION: | Rep. Ring moved to send S 1283 to the Floor with a Do Pass recommendation. He commented that restaurant owners who oppose the bill seemed to “prefer to endanger the life and health” of their patrons. He further stated that this bill may be the most important way this legislature can help to improve health care in Idaho. |
SUBSTITUTE
MOTION: |
Rep. McGeachin moved to send S 1283 to General Orders by
incorporating a new proposed RS 14266 with the bill and the Striking language on pg. 2, Line 25 and 26 of the RS, Creating a Subsection on pg. 4 of the RS, directly Creating a new Subsection 2 at line 43 of the RS, There was discussion on the motion. |
AMENDED
SUBSTITUTE |
Rep. Kulczyk moved to hold S 1283 in Committee to a Time Certain on Friday, March 12, 2004. He expressed that the language is in conflict and more time is needed to study all proposed amendments. |
MOTION: | Rep. Mitchell called for the question. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE CALL FOR THE QUESTION CARRIED. |
VOTE: | THE AMENDED SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO HOLD S 1283 TO A TIME CERTAIN, FRIDAY, FAILED. Committee discussion continued on the motions before them. |
MOTION: | Rep. Mitchell called for the question. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE CALL FOR THE QUESTION CARRIED. |
VOTE: | ON A ROLL CALL VOTE THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO SEND S 1283 TO GENERAL ORDERS WITH ATTACHMENTS FAILED. Voting Nay – Representatives Block, Kulczyk, Garrett, Ring, Henbest, Martinez Voting Aye – Representatives Eberle, McGeachin, Nielsen, Mitchell |
VOTE: | ON A ROLL CALL VOTE THE MOTION TO SEND S 1283 TO THE FLOOR WITH A DO PASS RECOMMENDATION PASSED. Voting Nay – Representatives Kulczyk, Eberle, McGeachin, Nielsen Voting Aye – Representatives Block, Garrett, Ring, Henbest, Martinez, Mitchell |
ADJOURN: | There being no further business, Chairman Sali adjourned the meeting at 7:40 P.M. |
DATE: | March 12, 2004 |
TIME: | 1:30 P.M. or Upon Adjournment |
PLACE: | Room 404 |
MEMBERS: | Chairman Sali, Vice Chairman Block, Representatives Eberle, Garrett, Kulczyk, McGeachin, Nielsen, Ring, Henbest, Martinez, Mitchell |
ABSENT/
EXCUSED: |
Representatives Eberle, McGeachin, Henbest |
GUESTS: | See attached sign in sheet. |
Chairman Sali called the meeting to order at 2:20 P.M. He presented a copy of his letter making report to the Speaker of the House advising him of the Committee’s action on all of the pending, temporary and fee rules that the Committee had received. (See attached letter) |
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S 1288 | Mike Sheeley, Executive Director of the Idaho Board of Dentistry addressed the Committee. The Idaho State board of Dentistry proposed the following three bills for consideration by the 2004 Legislature: S1288 (extended access oral health care programs); S1289 (volunteer’s license for retired dentists); and S1292 (change to the definition of the term “dental assistant”). Mr. Sheeley explained that the purpose of S1288 is to define the term Mr. Sheeley explained that by replacing the term “institution” with |
Katie Barbour, representing Lucrary Dental Clinic, a non-profit clinic, addressed the Committee in support of the bill. She explained that there is a huge population in the state of Idaho that do not have access to healthcare. By this new definition of extended access, a broader population will be allowed to receive dental health care services. |
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Stephanie Jarvis, dental hygienist and member of the Idaho Dental Hygienists’ Association (IDHA), addressed the Committee in support of the bill with amendments (see attached). She explained that she has been treating medically compromised patients and does not believe that she should now be required to obtain the endorsement allowing her to provide the services she has already been providing. |
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Brad Hoaglun, representing IDHA, addressed the Committee and presented two proposed amendments for S1288. He explained that the first amendment would strike the language requiring an endorsement; and the second amendment would give the hygienists ability to practice without supervision (see attached amendments). He explained that dental hygienists have been practicing in areas outside of the dental office under general supervision for twenty years and they object to the requirement of an endorsement. He further explained that the IDHA is in agreement to accept the endorsement requirement if the supervision requirement is removed. He also explained that they object to the 5-day minimum for hygienists to work in a volunteer capacity by posing the question of why 5-days was the number determined and why not more days. |
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Sally Kane, a dental hygienist, member of IDHA, addressed the Committee. She explained that she has worked in alternative practice settings under general supervision in collaboration with community dentists for more than 17 years. She opposes the endorsement. |
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Jennifer Andrews-Kelly, President of IDHA, addressed the Committee in opposition to the bill without the amendments. She explained that she does not oppose the definition change, but does oppose the endorsement. She further explained that dental hygienists have been providing dental care to areas outside of the dental office for twenty years and objects to the endorsement requirement with general supervision. She believes this is a step backward and will inhibit dental care. They would support un-supervised higher level of practice. She stated that the IDHA has tried to communicate their goals of expanding access to care by reducing the supervision requirements of dental hygienists. However, their visions for expanded access dental hygiene care have not been fully understood and are not part of this legislation. She stated that the two amendments to S1288 will make a positive impact on access to dental care in Idaho. |
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Jerry Davis, Executive Director of the Idaho Dental Association, addressed the Committee in support of this legislation. He explained that dental patients must receive the highest and safest level of care that can possibly be provided. He also explained that dentists are totally responsible and totally liable for any dental care services performed by health care providers from their dental practices. |
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Elizabeth Criner, representing the Idaho Primary Care Association, addressed the Committee in support of the bill. She explained that her association bills patients on a sliding-fee scale basis. She stated that there is a tremendous need for health care and this bill will expand access to care and will have a positive affect in the delivery of dental care services. She further stated that this bill will allow them to maximize the use of dentists by allowing dental hygienists to work under general supervision. |
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Julie Slee, dental hygienist, member of IDHA, addressed the Committee in support of this bill with the amendments. She explained that in order to do her job, she must find a dentist who is willing to take on the job of a supervisor. |
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MOTION: | Rep. Nielsen moved to send S1288 to General Orders with the first and second amendments of the IDHA attached. |
SUBSTITUTE MOTION: |
Rep. Kulczyk moved to send S1288 to General Orders with the first amendment of the IDHA attached which is on pg. 2, line 21 to strike the language beginning with the word, “holding a license with an extended access dental hygiene endorsement”. |
AMENDED SUBSTITUTE MOTION: |
Rep. Ring moved to send S1288 to the Floor with a Do Pass recommendation. There was discussion on the motion. Rep. Garrett commented that the process of establishing an endorsement requirement |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE AMENDED SUBSTITUTE MOTION FAILED. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION PASSED. |
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Rep. Jaquet addressed the Committee regarding this bill for Rep. Henbest who is the sponsor but who was unable to attend the meeting. She explained that this legislation will create a Healthy Idaho Advisory Committee within the Office of the Governor that will require reporting to the Governor and the legislation on a broad number of issues related to diet and exercise in Idaho and in Idaho schools. This committee will consist of up to fourteen members from various associations; the Department of Health and Welfare, the Idaho Dietetic Association, the Idaho Academy of Pediatrics, the Idaho Academy of Family Practice to name a few. She explained that the objective of this committee is to develop nutrition and physical activity recommendations and develop recommendations for the promotion of a statewide program to address physical inactivity and obesity. |
SeAnne Safaii, a dietitian and Co-Chairman for Action For Healthy Kids, addressed the Committee in support of this bill. She explained some of the problems related to children in the United States regarding obesity and lack of nutrition. She explained that the incidence of childhood obesity has doubled over the last two decades and as many as 25% of kids are at risk for obesity. Elementary children (45% of them) eat less than one serving of fruit a day and 20% eat less than one serving of vegetables (french fries were considered a vegetable). Only 18% of girls ages 9-19 meet their calcium requirement. About 2/3 eat more fat than is recommended. She further explained that in the last fifteen years, milk consumption in schools has decreased by 29% and pop consumption has increased 1100%. Ms. Safaii explained that the health care costs associated with obesity, |
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MOTION: | Rep. Martinez moved to send H 829 to the Floor with a Do Pass recommendation. He commented that coordinating this type of program is worthwhile even if only one-hundred people are impacted and, in turn, impact others. There was discussion on the motion. Some of the concerns shared by the Committee were: states mandating |
SUBSTITUTE MOTION: |
Rep. Nielsen moved to hold H 829 to a Time Certain, Tuesday,
March 16. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION FAILED. |
VOTE: | ON A ROLL CALL VOTE, THE MAIN MOTION TO SEND H 829 TO THE FLOOR WITH A DO PASS RECOMMENDATION PASSED. Representatives Kulczyk, Nielsen voted Nay. Representatives Block, Garrett, Ring, Martinez voted Aye. |
S 1289 | Mike Sheeley addressed the Committee and explained that S 1289, which is a bill that would provide for a volunteer licensing for retired dentists, is a companion bill to S 1288 and because the later did not pass without amendment, this bill has become mute. He asked to withdraw the bill. There was no objection. |
S 1292 | Mike Sheeley addressed the Committee in support of this bill. He explained that the purpose of this legislation is to amend the Idaho Dental Practice Act (Chapter 9, Title 54, Idaho Code) by the deletion of the restriction in the existing definition of “dental assistant” found in Idaho Code which only authorized dental assistants to practice under the direct supervision of a dentist and to include the term “dental assistant” in the definitions of the terms “general supervision” and “indirect supervision” presently found in Idaho Code. He further explained that this statute change will provide the necessary statutory authority for the Board of Dentistry to promulgate administrative rules authorizing dental assistants to perform permissible functions under varying levels of supervision. This will allow the board latitude for the future. |
MOTION: | Rep. Kulczyk moved to send S 1292 to the Floor with a Do Pass recommendation. |
Ms. Andrews-Kelly addressed the Committee in opposition of the bill. She believes that this will jeopardize patient care. She stated dental assistants are not required to have any formal education. |
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Kelly Campbell Burton, a dental hygienist and member of IDHA addressed the Committee in opposition to the bill. She explained that there are currently no regulations or standards for dental assistants. They are not required to have CPR training, or any medical emergency training. |
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Brad Hoagland, representing IDHA, addressed the Committee in opposition to the bill. He opposes dental assistants being allowed to practice without the presence of a dentist. He is concerned with the current practice of, in some instances, allowing dental assistants to perform invasive procedures, when they do not have the education or certification that would be required. |
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Rep. Kulczyk asked to withdraw the main motion. There was no objection. |
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Katie Barbour, representing Lucrary Dental Clinic, a non-profit dental clinic, testified in support of this bill. She stated that this is only foundational and is necessary to make this statutory change in order to create the opportunity for the Board of Dentistry and interested parties to work together in developing a plan for the future status of dental assistants. |
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Jerry Davis, Executive Director of the Idaho Dental Association, testified in support of this bill. He stated that this legislation has had overwhelming support from dentists and the only objection to the bill has come from dental hygienists. He explained that a dentist’s liability is on the line, consequently he/she is not going to use a dental assistant in this capacity if they do not have a proven record for their level of ability. Katie Barbour yielded to a question by stating that the statute needs to |
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Elizabeth Criner, representing the Idaho Primary Association, addressed the Committee in support of this bill. She stated that there are approximately 63,000 patients served in their facilities throughout the state and currently only six of their facilities provide dental care services. This bill will lay the foundation that will allow the opportunity for providing greater access to care for those who are medically under-served, as well as, increase cost effectiveness. The rule-making process does occur, whereby negotiations, discussion, etc. may promulgate rule changes. |
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MOTION: | Rep. Kulczyk moved to send S 1292 to the Floor with a Do Pass recommendation. He commented that the most important aspect is to provide dental care to populations in need. |
Chairman Sali took a point of personal privilege to express his opinion that dental assistants are essentially apprentices in that they receive on-the-job training; dental hygienists have required education and must be licensed/certified to practice. The need to provide dental access to patients in need is most important. He suggested that at a lower-level of practice a dental assistant has a lot to offer to help those who will not otherwise get dental care. He believes dentists are normally very responsible in trusting the ability of the dental assistants to provide the level of health care that they would authorize. A concern by the Committee shared was the issue of developing minimum |
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VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION TO SEND S 1292 TO THE FLOOR WITH A DO PASS RECOMMENDATION PASSED. |
MOTION: | Rep. Block asked Unanimous Consent that the Committee reconsider the action taken on S 1288. |
VOTE: | THERE WAS NO OBJECTION. |
MOTION: | Rep. Block moved to send S 1288 to the Floor with a Do Pass recommendation. The case was not made as to why we need to have the endorsement extended and without it why we cannot have S 1289. Mike Sheeley yielded to a question by explaining that there needs to be Rep. Nielsen requested the suspension of Rule 22 in order to discuss S 1289 again. There was no objection. Rep. Nielsen asked Mike |
Rep. Block asked for Unanimous Consent that the Committee take action on S 1289 to send it to the Floor with a Do Pass recommendation. There was no objection. |
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SUBSTITUTE MOTION: |
Rep. Nielsen moved to send S 1288 to General Orders with the one Committee amendment attached which is to strike the language on pg. 2, line 21 that says, “holding a license with an extended access dental hygiene endorsement”. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
ADJOURN: | There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 6:35 P.M. |
DATE: | March 16, 2004 |
TIME: | 1:30 P.M. or Upon Adjournment |
PLACE: | Room 404 |
MEMBERS: | Chairman Sali, Vice Chairman Block, Representatives Eberle, Garrett, Kulczyk, McGeachin, Nielsen, Ring, Henbest, Martinez, Mitchell |
ABSENT/
EXCUSED: |
Representative Block |
GUESTS: | See attached sign-in sheet. |
Chairman Sali called the meeting to order at 2:15 P.M. He asked the Committee to review the minutes of March 10. |
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MOTION: | Rep. Kulczyk moved to approve the minutes of March 10, 2004 as written. |
S 1418 | Bill Von Tagen, Deputy Attorney General, representing Attorney General Lawrence Wasden addressed the Committee. He explained that this bill will limit Health and Welfare’s responsibility in establishing rule making and protocols for “do not resuscitate orders” to establishing rules and protocols for emergency services personnel. He distributed a copy of a portion of S 1249. S 1418 is a trailer bill to S 1249. S 1249, which passed by both houses, extended that protection of the DNR statute and also extended the protocol and rules defining DNR protocol beyond the threshold of the hospital door. S 1249 covers hospitals, institutional settings, assisted living facilities, etc. The Health and Welfare Department does not want the responsibility of establishing rules or protocol for DNR’s in these above-mentioned settings. They’ve described their role only as properly within the area of EMT’s. This bill leaves the rule making authority right where it is and does not extend it to establishing rules on DNR’s for hospitals, etc. |
MOTION: | Rep. Ring moved to send S 1418 to the Floor with a Do Pass recommendation. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
S 1301a | Toni Poinelli, Deputy Director of Idaho Association of Counties, addressed the Committee. The purpose of this legislation is to provide guidelines that clearly state when, how and who should be considered when filing a delayed application for medically indigent assistance. Mr. Poinelli explained that this bill will close a loophole which exists in the current law dealing with the 180 day delayed application process. Currently, an application to the county must be submitted within 31 days after receiving medical services. The applicant/provider can choose to file a delayed application – up to 180 days after the service is rendered – if they qualify for one of the six resources listed in statute (Medicaid, |
MOTION: | Rep. Mitchell moved to send S 1301a as amended to the Floor with a Do Pass recommendation. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
S 1293 | Toni Poinelli addressed the Committee. He explained that the purpose of this bill is to provide better communication, cooperation, and coordination dealing with mental health issues in the regions and counties. This legislation revises the membership of the current regional mental health advisory boards and provides for additional powers and duties for the new boards which will increase their function beyond the advisory level. He explained that numerous studies have been done that indicate that this needs to be brought back to the local level. This new advisory board will consist of fourteen members, including representatives from counties, providers, consumers, advocates and family members, and a representative from the regional substance abuse advisory authority and one from the childrens’ mental health council. Their purpose is to look at the needs within their regions. He stated that this bill changes the membership of the existing boards and entrusts those members with the task of identifying the gaps in services and developing a plan to meet the needs of the community. Mr. Poinelli referenced the proposed amendment, offered by Jim Baugh Jim Baugh, Executive Director of Comprehensive Advocacy, Inc., Madeline Wyatt, registered nurse, member of the Mental Health and Kelly Buckland, Executive Buckland, State Independent Living Council, |
MOTION: | Rep. Garrett moved to send S 1293 to General Orders with the following amendments attached: Section 39-3130, pg. 2, line 6, inserting the language after the word, authority. “The consumer and family representatives shall be selected from nominations submitted by mental health consumer and advocacy organizations.” Rep. Garrett referred to a report inside the members’ folders, which is a summary entitled “Achieving the Promise: Transforming Mental Health Care in America,” from the President’s New Freedom Commission on Mental Health (see attachment). She commented that the issue is about building communities with good mental health. She commented that spending the money on prevention is much more cost effective than waiting until a crisis occurs with increased spending for prisons, jails, emergency rooms, institutions, etc. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
S 1280a | Kandee Yearsley, Child Support Program Manager, Department of Health and Welfare, addressed the Committee regarding financial institution (FIDM) data match for child support. She explained that over $380 million is owed single parents in Idaho and FIDM is an agressive enforcement tool that targets parents who have the financial resources to pay but won’t. She further explained that the FIDM process includes seizing financial assets to offset the arrears balance on cases where the balance exceeds $2,000, or is three months in arrears and there have been no payments. She stated that the current garnishment process has produced no real results. With this proposed legislation, it is estimated that potential collections would be in excess of $1 million per year to be distributed to those families in Idaho to which child support is due, but unpaid. (See attached testimony and H&W Department brochure on Financial Institution Data Match) |
MOTION: | Rep. Henbest moved to send S 1280a to the Floor with a Do Pass recommendation. Chairman Sali will sponsor the bill. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
ADJOURN: | Chairman Sali adjourned the meeting at 3:40 P.M. |
DATE: | March 18, 2004 |
TIME: | 1:30 P.M. or Upon Adjournment |
PLACE: | Room 404 |
MEMBERS: | Chairman Sali, Vice Chairman Block, Representatives Eberle, Garrett, Kulczyk, McGeachin, Nielsen, Ring, Henbest, Martinez, Mitchell |
ABSENT/
EXCUSED: |
None |
GUESTS: | See attached sign in sheet. |
Chairman Sali called the meeting to order at 1:40 P.M. | |
MOTION: | Rep. Henbest moved to approve the minutes of March 16, 2004 as written. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
MOTION: | Rep. Martinez moved to approve the minutes of March 12, 2004 as written. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
S 1317a | Senator Brandt addressed the Committee. He explained that the purpose of this legislation is to clarify jurisdiction of licensed emergency medical service agencies to provide an exception to jurisdiction of the sheriff. This change will provide the same clarity about chain of command for EMS agencies as for fire agencies. Sheriffs are generally not trained or equipped to command medical incidents, and some local EMS agencies are frequently not affiliated with a sheriffs department. This legislation is in the best interest of public safety in our communities. Committee questions followed. |
MOTION: | Rep. Nielsen moved to send S 1317a to the Floor with a Do Pass recommendation. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
S 1290 | Kathleen Allyn, Deputy Administrator, Medicaid Division, Department of Health and Welfare, addressed the Committee. She explained the purpose of this legislation is to clarify the state’s responsibility in Medicaid estate recovery and to decrease litigation costs. She explained the following points of the bill. Under state and federal law, the state must attempt to recover the cost of This bill specifies when the time period to recover transferred property The bill says that the 4-year period for recovering the property starts only The bill also makes a technical correction to clarify that the Department Bob Aldridge, attorney representing the Department of Health and |
MOTION: | Rep. Mitchell moved to send S 1290 to the Floor with a Do Pass recommendation. Rep. Nielsen will sponsor the bill. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. |
The Chairman put the Committee at ease at 2:08 P.M. for the purpose of discussion regarding time constraints and allowing enough time for testimony and Committee debate on S 1321a. By unanimous consent, the members agreed that proponents Rep. McGeachin, Clinton Miner and Kerry Uhlenkott would be allowed 45 minutes for presentation of the bill and then the opponents Bruce Bistline, Ellie Merrick and Marty Durrand would be allowed 45 minutes to make a response, though it was recognized that there were likely 4 or more different fronts on which the bill would be opposed. The remaining individuals would then alternate proponent/opponent with no more than 7 minutes for any individual. Many presenters felt they would take no more than 3 minutes. The Chairman called the meeting to order at 2:20 P.M and repeated the |
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S 1321a | Rep. McGeachin presented S 1321a. She explained the importance of informed consent and the necessity of changing current law. She also explained how this bill would strengthen Idaho law, and she summarized some concerns with existing law. She concluded by explaining that the |
PRO | Clinton Minor, attorney, testified in support of this legislation. He stated that this bill will give women the ability to have full disclosure and full understanding. He stated that this bill provides for a required 24-hour waiting period before an abortion procedure; required pregnancy test, confirmed by the attending physician (test results must be signed by patient and kept in physician’s file); an ultrasound image of the fetus shown to the patient by the physician, if requested by the patient before the abortion procedure; and a face to face consultation with the patient required of the physician providing her with required information outlined in the bill. Committee questions followed. One of the concerns addressed was the fact that the bill will have an Questions by Committee members followed. |
The Chairman put the Committee at ease at 3:19 P.M. at the instruction of the Speaker of the House. The Chairman called the meeting to order at 3:21 P.M. The Chairman explained that the Speaker had just demanded that in |
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MOTION: | Rep. Kulczyk moved to cut off debate of proponents and give the opposition 45 minutes for testimony. |
The Chairman put the Committee at ease at 3:28 P.M. to determine if the course demanded of the Committee would violate Idaho Open Meeting Law. The Chairman yielded the gavel to Vice-Chairman Block. Vice-Chairman Block called the meeting to order at 3:30 P.M. |
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VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION PASSED. Vice-Chairman Block stated the Committee would immediately begin hearing testimony from the opposition. |
CON | Bruce Bistline, attorney and former lobbyist for the American Civil Liberties Union, addressed the Committee. He explained that he was appearing on his own behalf explaining that his particular concern has to do with the provisions that are being added to Section 18-605, Subsection 4. He further explained that this bill dramatically and dangerously changes the law regarding what claims can be brought in the areas of statutory law and in the area of malpractice /negligence law. This bill substantially expands existing rights by making it a criminal act for abortions to not provide informed consent, creates civil penalties when it is not done and creates a very broad cause of action that has not been defined and which would expose abortionists to unfair liability. That may cause doctors to choose not to do abortions. |
CON | Ellie Merrick, lobbyist for Planned Parenthood of Idaho addressed the Committee. She explained that they are not opposed to informing women about the potential risks and complications prior to their abortion procedure. She stated that they oppose this bill because there is already an informed consent law on the books and the Department of Health and Welfare is currently producing the materials that will soon be available. Physicians will continue to use fetal development materials from different states, and references from Idaho-specific information. She further stated that this bill makes physicians extremely vulnerable to lawsuits by third parties, given the language in the civil liability section of the bill. |
CON | Marty Durand, Legal Council for the American Civil Liberty Union of Idaho, addressed the Committee by explaining that the standards of the medical profession, as well as current state law, ensures that health care practitioners provide women with accurate and unbiased information regarding the risks and benefits of their various treatment options and obtain their informed consent. She further explained that this bill forces doctors to provide women with information that is intended to discourage them from having abortions. (See attached for further testimony.) |
Vice Chairman Block yielded the gavel back to Chairman Sali. He explained that according to Idaho Open Meeting Law, I.C. 67-2346, the public may attend all meetings of the legislature, but may only testify with the “approval of the Committee.” He explained that under the duress of the limitations imposed upon the Committee, the remaining debate would have to be limited to two minutes per presenter with no questions by Committee members and while there would be time for motions, only extremely limited time could be taken for debate in order to be able to conclude with a vote on the bill by the time imposed for the end of the meeting. |
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PRO | Barry Peters, attorney in private practice representing Cornerstone Institute addressed the Committee. He stated that he disagrees with the suggestion previously made in testimony that the provisions of this bill broaden liability for abortionists or increase the number of people who would have an opportunity to make claims. He stated that this bill if enacted into statute, contains a provision in Section 2 that would limit liability of abortionists for their negligence. With this bill and with the amendment, a cause of action for negligence would be limited only to the patient or to immediate family members. |
CON | Dr. Gary Krouth, M.D., St. Lukes Hospital addressed the Committee. He is concerned because section 3 of the bill repeals the reference to immunity from civil liability for hospitals. No such limitation appears in the new language giving hospitals new exposure to causes of action, even when they should be against the physician. He also is concerned that this bill includes fourteen requirements for informed consent, compared to only four in the current statute. He believes this creates much more opportunity for hospitals to fail, even with a good faith effort, to meet those requirements. |
PRO | Mia Crosthwaite, representing the Catholic Churches, addressed the Committee. She explained that in their counseling program for post-abortive women, many have stated that they had no idea that they would have suffered as painfully as they have. Many did not know about the risks. She read from a letter of a counselor who stated that some of the post-abortive women she has counseled have undergone depression, anxiety, guilt, emotional numbing, self-blame, and a host of other problems. She stated that she does believe this bill will save lives. |
CON | Gayle B. Poorman, private citizen, addressed the Committee. She stated that the bill is unnecessary as informed consent law is already in statute. She urged the Committee to vote against the bill. (See attached testimony for further detail.) |
PRO | Kerry Uhlenkott, Legislative Coordinator for Right to Life of Idaho, addressed the Committee. She explained that this is pro-life legislation which is being supported by many groups, Focus on the Family, National Right to Life, Cornerstone, and Right to Life of Idaho, Healing the Culture and several more. She explained the reason for the telephone counseling provision is to allow Planned Parenthood counselors to exercise their First Amendment rights which she feels is necessary. She believes that the website provision is important to bring technology into play for women seeking abortion. (See attached testimony) |
CON | Barbara Gough, Associate Director for Generation Life and a pre-med student at BSU addressed the Committee. She explained that because of the loopholes in the language of the bill, it does not give any protection to women and it will not result in them gaining sufficient information to make an informed decision before deciding whether to undergo an abortion. She stated that this bill is not sound nor is it a strong bill. |
CON | Steve Millard, Idaho Hospital Association, addressed the Committee. He is concerned with the immunity provision for hospitals that will be stripped from Idaho Code, resulting in the extension of new civil liability to doctors and hospitals. He stated that they do not have any problems with informing patients of their rights and that hospitals operate under informed consent for patients all of the time. |
PRO | Jeannette McAllister, RN, representing Right to Life, addressed the Committee regarding the bill. She stated that many experts, including the U.S. Supreme Court Justice Powell, have stated that the typical abortion experience is done in an assembly-line fashion and there is no doctor/patient relationship. (See attached for further testimony.) |
CON | Toni Lawson, Executive Director of Idaho Nurses Association, addressed the Committee. She stated that they are in strong support of informed consent regarding any medical procedure a patient is about to undergo. She stated that this bill only adds confusion because, while existing law is fairly clear regarding what is expected of the physician, the new language is unclear and vague. They are deeply disturbed by the implication that patients are not properly being counseled on medical procedures. |
PRO | Camille De Blasi, President of Healing the Culture addressed the Committee in support of the bill. She noted that Father Robert Spitzer, President of Gonzaga University, stated in his letter to the Idaho State Legislature that S 1321a “will support our nations’s commitment to the principle of informed consent, where such consent is necessary for free and responsible action.” She explained that research consistently shows that important information is frequently withheld from women seeking abortions, on the mistaken assumption that they are either too fragile to handle factual truths about abortion and fetal development, or that they would not want this information. (See attached for further testimony.) |
CON | Lee Finn, representing Idaho Women’s Network. She stated that they strongly support informed consent for any medical procedure, including abortion, but does not support this bill. She stated that the informed consent provisions of Idaho law are sufficient, including descriptions of the fetus at two-weeks intervals and descriptions of the abortion procedure. She further stated that the problem facing women today is that the materials provided by the department are insufficient, but the materials the Department of Health and Welfare is currently drafting will certainly be sufficient and acceptable. |
CON | Tammy Seydel, private citizen addressed the Committee in opposition to the bill. See expressed that “we cannot fail these vulnerable women.” She stated that she is in opposition to some of the Planned Parenthood testimony. She recommends that Idaho’s informed consent law is already established and needs to be enforced. She cannot personally endorse this bill because the language is vague and includes loopholes that will not protect vulnerable women. (See attached testimony) |
PRO | Amy Lynde, sophomore in high school and daughter of Julie Lynde who represents Cornerstone Institute of Idaho spoke on behalf of her mother who was attending a conference out of town. She explained that currently the abortion procedure continues to pose countless physical and emotional risks to American women. She quoted from Fredericka Mathews Greene of Feminists for Life who says, “No woman wants an abortion like she wants a Porche or an ice cream cone. She wants an abortion like an animal caught in a trap who is willing to chew off its own leg just to break free.” True informed consent is the key to the trap that so many women find themselves in. Information can help minimize the damage. (See attached testimony) |
CON | David Ripley, representing Idaho Chooses Life, addressed the Committee. He explained that the bill is unacceptable for many reasons, including: The enforcement mechanism in the bill is made meaningless by the limitation on liability to abortionists; there is no requirement for adequate information regarding prevention – choosing life over abortion; No requirement that accurate information regarding the after affects of abortion be provided to women seeking abortion. |
PRO | Senator Brandt addressed the Committee explaining that he believes by this bill pregnant women will receive the proper information that they need to make a good decision. He stated that he does not believe that this is being done in spite of the requirement of the current statute. He stated, “Just the platform of life is better than death.” He further stated he does not see how making good information available is bad. |
MOTION: | Rep. McGeachin moved to send S 1321a to the Floor with a Do Pass recommendation. There was discussion on the motion. Rep. Henbest commented that she is strongly in favor of strong informed Rep. McGeachin commented in support of the motion by stating that this |
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Rep. Kulczyk moved to hold S 1321 in Committee. He commented that his primary concern with the bill is that the effective date of the bill is July 1, but the date of authorization for the Department to publish materials required by the language falls three months after the law would go into effect. Consequently the bill is probably unconstitutional and could not be defended in court. If struck down, Idaho would be left with no informed consent law because the bill repeals the existing section. He suggests that a new clean bill be drafted and brought back next year. He was also concerned that the time limitations imposed by the Speaker did not give the Committee sufficient time to listen to those testifying and ask them questions and also prohibited a thorough debate on the motions. He has concerns with the bill that he was unable to ask presenters about or bring up in debate. Rep. Garret commented that because of the time limits that had been Rep. Eberle commented that he has never been a part of a committee |
MOTION: | Rep. Martinez moved the previous question. |
VOTE: | ON A VOICE VOTE THE MOTION CARRIED. Debate ceased. |
VOTE: | ON A ROLL CALL VOTE, THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO HOLD
S 1321a IN COMMITTEE PASSED. Representatives Sali, Kulczyk, Nielsen, Henbest, Martinez, Mitchell voted Aye. Representatives Block Garrett, Eberle, Ring, McGeachin voted Nay. |
ADJOURN: | Chairman Sali adjourned the meeting at 4:45 P.M. |
DATE: | March 20, 2004, 2004 |
TIME: | 5:05 P.M. |
PLACE: | Room 404 |
MEMBERS: | Chairman Sali, Vice Chairman Block, Representatives Garrett, Kulczyk, Ring, Henbest, Martinez |
ABSENT/
EXCUSED: |
Representatives Eberle, McGeachin, Mitchell, Nielsen |
GUESTS: | |
Chairman Sali called the meeting to order at 5:05 p.m. Rep. Henbest pointed out that the minutes of March 18, 2004, should be corrected on page 5 under Dr. Krauth’s testimony changing the word “arbortionist” to “physician.” Rep. Block made a motion to accept the minutes of March 18, 2004, as written changing the word “arbortionist” to “physician” on page 5 under Dr. Krauth’s testimony and that the secretary, Jennifer O’Kief, will sign the original copy. By voice vote the motion passed. Rep. Sali asked that a committee member make a motion to hold in |
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ADJOURN: | Rep. Kulczyk made a motion to adjourn sine die. Motion passed by voice vote. Chairman Sali adjourned the meeting at 5:14 p.m. |